Friday, October 14, 2005, 8:57:04 PM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:

> That's why the quote said: '*UK* users can now download BBC footage for
> use in their own films - without paying a penny.'
> It is only fair. After all they are the ones who are sponsoring the BBC.

Friday, October 14, 2005, 9:35:21 PM, Andy Carvin wrote:

> There appears to be no technical means of blocking non-UK residents - I
> just set up a free account without any problems - but the webpage 
> certainly makes it clear:

> "Content provided under the Creative Archive Licence is only available
> to residents of the United Kingdom."

Saturday, October 15, 2005, 1:45:24 AM, Beth Kanter wrote:

> Does the license spell out what happens if non-UK citizen uses it?   Not
> that I would test British copyright laws or anything.

This edges on something that has fascinated me for months now.

There seems to be a strange discontinuity between the ideas of "UK
resident" and "TV licence payer". The BBC seems to be explicitly
making its material available to the first of these disjoint groups,
instead of (the apparently more suitable) second group. Sure these
groups largely overlap, but THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

The BBC TV licence service doesn't like to admit it, but there are
people in the UK who do not pay a TV licence fee. Usually this is
because these people have no TV.

My suggestion (which seems on the surface, to me, to be a better one
all round) is that this material instead be limited not to UK
residents but to TV licence payers. This has several potential
advantages:

1. It realigns the responsibilities and the logical basis of the
limitation.

2. Crazy and unworkable geo-ip schemes need not apply. Simply use the
existing TV licence number as a login.

3. It opens the possibility of selling UK TV licences outside the UK!

Currently the UK TV licence costs roughly GBP 10 (that's about USD 18)
per month. That sounds like a frickin' good deal for access to the
whole BBC back catalogue, if they were to open it up.

The BBC wants cash. You lot want content. Let's all lobby the BBC
to "do the right thing".

-- 
Frank Carver   http://www.makevideo.org.uk



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