Oh just to clarify when I am ranting about flash, Im talking about services that let you capture live from a camera, live how the videoconfrence works, not the services that accept multiple video formats and then offer them as flash files (as these dont have to use flash communication server)
Oh yeah Im not exactly captain business but as Im interested in how this particular market is evolving, I found some long venture capital podcast that featured the videoegg people and details of how theyve been building the company: http://www.venturevoice.com/2005/09/vv_show_14_videoegg_preparing.html#more Personally I am more interested in the technology being available for all sites to do easy video publishing (eg to their own servers), rather than putting all my eggs in one basket (boom boom). Could I ever truly recommend any sort of host to someone and tell them that their stuff will be there for many years? But obviously most of these companies see their revenue model as coming from the hosting side of things in various different ways, they dont want to just sell their software cheaply to end users or webhosts. Thats where vlogit is an interesting mix, they are partnering up with eg blog publishing sites, but also offering the software for $ as an end user solution that can publish to your own server as well as a range of hosts. I just stumbled on some technology that sounds like it might have some potential, I dunno I havent had time to check it out properly yet: http://lulop2.sourceforge.net/ Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh my, I went looking at various different blogs to learn more about > videoegg, and ended up having my brain exploded by stuff like this: > > http://www.techcrunch.com/2005/11/06/the-flickrs-of-video/ > > Scroll down and read some of the comments, theres like a totally > rediculous number of competing services, quite a lot of which Ive > never heard mention of here. > > Is there a new Venture capital bubble building with Web 2.0 or something? > > Anyway theres so many different ways to classify these different > services. Im primarily interested in seeing services that make the > process real easy, and completely doable within the web-browser. So > this narrows things down to services that use flash to capture video > to the server, or service that use their own browser plugin. Flash has > the installation base and cross-platform advantages, but requires > Flash Communication Server (now Flash Media Server) to do live > recording, and the license for that aint cheap. I think videoegg is > the first company Ive seen to write their own browser plugin that can > do video capture, though this has the drawbacks of needing to get > people to install it (only the creator though, viewers dont need it) > and in the case of videoegg, not having a mac or linux version at launch. > > I havent seen the perfect system yet, need some better underlying > technologies in my opinion, flash aint worth the cost and then > macromedia/adobe go messing around with the server license costs, > potentially damaging the business model of some of the services people > have setup using FCS. And the quality isnt good enough. And at a > minimum the flash stuff should also be converted on the server to an > ipod compatible format. Oh Im ranting, I will stop soon. > > I guess Im frustrated at the sheer number of these startups offering > video hosting but with unclear paths to the future, and not that much > to seperate them from a technical vewpoint. Maybe there is room for > all of them, but Ive yet to work out which ones are a safe bet. > > Steve of Elbows > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Im glad to see some easy and integrated tools appearing. > > > > Neither of these work on the Mac at the moment though, which is a > > shame, but then I guess it is Windows users who are in the vast > majority. > > > > Its a shame they are currently not helping file format issues though. > > I doubt either will generate ipod-compatible video at the moment for > > example. > > > > And yeah the other drawback is that things like VlogIt will influence > > the style of the video thats created, and so not be a perfect fir for > > everyone. > > > > But its a start for sure. > > > > Steve of Elbows > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Share" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Wow. Typepad is definitely offering the videoblogging world some > > > interesting tools.....however I checked out VideoEgg for about a > > > minute. It took away too many freedoms for me so I am sticking with > > > uploading several versions for now. > > > > > > As for 'Vlog It' the Serious Magic software.......someone has finally > > > brought out the 'anyone can vlog' editing tool. This will be great for > > > getting more people to vlog. > > > > > > I suppose when the books come out: "Vlogging for Dummies" and > > > "Videoblogging for Idiots".......that's when we will know it's > > mainstream. > > > > > > thanks for that update. > > > share > > > www.rocknrolltv.net > > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.sixapart.com/typepad/news/2005/12/video_blogging.html > > > > > > > > "We're excited to announce two partnerships with companies that are > > > > making it easy to add video to your TypePad blog: VideoEgg and > > Serious > > > > Magic. What's great about these two products is that they > provide two > > > > very different ways of video blogging, but they're both great fits > > with > > > > TypePad." > > > > > > > > > > > > --Steve > > > > -- > > > > Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com > > > > Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com > > > > Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
