Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't MPEG4 an open source format?  Or is
that open standard?  (Or both?)

Harold

On 4/4/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Hello,
>
> Currently, I don't think there is one defacto standard video format.
> There's a whole set of formats that are currently being used:
>
> MPEG
> WMV
> QuickTime (.mov)
> M4V (iPod)
> MP4 (MPEG4)
> FLV (Flash Video)
> RM (Real Media)
> Xivd
> Ogg Theora
> Most vlogs I go to regularly support around 4 of these formats.
>
> Everyone seems to be trying to support as much as possible to get the widest
> possible audience.
>
> Honestly, I think it's early enough in the game where we can influence and
> perhaps even determine which format will become the defacto standard.
>
> As soon as you get enough browsers/players reading it, and get enough free
> (and maybe non-free) vlog hosting providers producing it, it will become the
> defacto standard.
>
>
>
> See ya
>
> On 4/4/06, Harold Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Charles,
> >
> > This is the first I've heard of Ogg Theora, and I am *into* open
> > source; that is, I run Linux on a PC and on an old Powerbook at home,
> > though I can't say I use it every day (or even every week or month,
> > for that matter).  I have my doubts that Ogg Theora will become the de
> > facto standard; I mean, look at Ogg Vorbis.  How many of you (reading
> > this) even know what Ogg Vorbis is?
> >
> > You're perhaps right, however, about one format or another becoming
> > the de facto standard in the future.  Look at what happened with
> > Flash; now you'll find it installed in nearly every browser out there.
> > And though I admire your idealism about Ogg and its future, which
> > format do you think is the *current* de facto standard?
> >
> > Thanks for your feedback,
> > Harold
> >
> > On 4/4/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  Hello,
> > >
> > > I think the only way to really make all (or most) browsers support one
> > > standard video format is to force them.
> > >
> > > Basically, we do this by making a single video format the defacto
> standard.
> > > In other words, all of us vloggers just start using one video format,
> and
> > > eventually, the browser makers will feel compelled to support that
> format.
> > >
> > > Now, this doesn't mean that we don't support other formats.  It just
> means
> > > that as a baseline we always support that one video format.
> > >
> > > (My vote is for Ogg Theora to be the defacto standard for the reasons I
> > > previously mentioned.)
> > >
> > >
> > > If you want an example of this working.... Just look at RSS.  It's now
> being
> > > supported by all the browsers because it was a defacto standard.  I.e.,
> the
> > > browsers added support for RSS because everyone was using it.
> > >
> > >
> > > See ya
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/4/06, Harold Johnson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I wish there was a format that played great online on most browsers
> (which
> > > would still be IE, unfortunately) and played just as well on the video
> iPod
> > > and the Creative Zen Vision:M device...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 4/4/06, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 3ivx creates mp4 with AAC that's compatible with quicktime 6 & 7,
> iPod
> > > > > and I suspect also the PSP player.  It also looks quite good with
> dual
> > > > > pass encoding.
> > > > >
> > > > >   -- Enric
> > > > >   -======-
> > > > >   http://www.cirne.com
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Johnson"
> > > > >
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for your response, Enric.  How in particular do you fing
> 3ivx
> > > > > > fits the criteria?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 4/4/06, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > >  3ivx...though I haven't tried iton PSP, it fits the other
> criteria.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    -- Enric
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Van Dijck"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  <petervandijck@> wrote:
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >  > I want an answer too. I suspect it's a certain encoding for
> mp4.
> > > > > > >  Something
> > > > > > >  > that plays on older quicktime installs. And on the video iPod
> > > (and
> > > > > > >  the PSP
> > > > > > >  > if possible).
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >  > Peter
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >  > On 4/4/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <supercanadian@> wrote:
> > > > > > >  > >
> > > > > > >  > >  Hello,
> > > > > > >  > >
> > > > > > >  > > IMO, it's Ogg Theora.
> > > > > > >  > >
> > > > > > >  > > You can see why here:
> > > > > > >  > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> http://maketelevision.com/log/why_ogg_theora_matters_for_internet_tv
> > > > > > >  > >
> > > > > > >  > >
> > > > > > >  > > See ya
> > > > > > >  > >
> > > > > > >  > >
> > > > > > >  > > On 4/3/06, Harold Johnson < harold.johnson@> wrote:
> > > > > > >  > > >
> > > > > > >  > > >  Okay, I suspect this one has probably been debated a
> > > gazillion
> > > > > > >  > > > mazillion times, but I'm going to introduce the topic
> > > > > anyway: At
> > > > > > >  this point
> > > > > > >  > > > in time, what do you think is the best overall digital
> video
> > > > > > >  format for
> > > > > > >  > > > videoblogging?
> > > > > > >  > > >
> > > > > > >  > > > thanks,
> > > > > > >  > > >
> > > > > > >  > > > Harold
> >
>
> [...]
>
>
> --
>     Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
>
>     charles @ reptile.ca
>      supercanadian @ gmail.com
>
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