Thank you for saying this Josh.......I have to say this whole thread 
has really taken me by surprise........it seems that everyone is out 
to vilify VEOH.....look I don't like what they did but you head the 
nail on the head when you talk about ALL the sites that are 
infringing......in various ways.......

What I don't get and maybe someone can explain this to me in a simple 
manner, (I am not a real tech guy, I know enough and am learning but 
on a thread like this I realize how much I don't know.) I put my 
videos out, what is to stop someone from putting my RSS feed into a 
site without my knowledge and how does that site know it's not me?  
What is to stop someone from uploading my video to "YouTube" and have 
it link back to "their" site?  How does a site that gathers 
video "control" that?  You can have all the "opt in" you want but by 
putting our video out there we all take the risk of 
someone "highjacking" our stuff........don't we?

Heath - Batman Geek
http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Joshua Kinberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> OK, this thread got out of whack... it was not about Veoh, but how
> other services are doing roughly what Veoh has done but to 
mainstream
> content owners while hiding behind their supposed inability to 
enforce
> their own terms of use....
> 
> Just trying to get back on track here. This thread was about the 
large
> amount of copyright infringment happening on the various video clip
> sharing services (YouTube, vSocial, et al) and how those services
> "look the other way" and, much to their own benefit, tolerate the
> copyright infringing practice of a relative minority of users.
> 
> -Josh
> 
> 
> On 4/8/06, David Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > First. Each one of the videos that was stolen from me by VEOH
> > originally had my website address at the end of them. I could not
> > verify that it was still there as I had to register with VEOH's 
site
> > to actually view my own videos. That is not going to happen.
> >
> > Second. Each of the videos that was stolen came from my site 
which has
> > "All content is Copyright (c) 2005/2006 David Howell" As well, 
there is
> > a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 2.5 License for all
> > content on my site.
> >
> > Nevermind that they have removed all but one of my videos, VEOH
> > violated my copyright. Plain and simple.
> >
> > You know what? I am a pretty easy going guy. All VEOH had to do 
was
> > ask me to use my videos. That's all. A simple email. They couldnt 
have
> > been bothered though. They chose to steal them. Petty thievery.
> >
> > David
> > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Daryl Watson <djwatson@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Copyright is an issue for filmmakers as well as vloggers. So 
how do
> > > film-makers ensure their films are correctly credited and the 
copyright
> > > status of their films made clear to their audience? They 
include it
> > within
> > > the film/video itself.
> > >
> > > Is it that hard for a vlogger to include a plate at the end of 
each vlog
> > > that gives credit to the author of the vlogger, and a symbol
> > indicating it's
> > > copyright  status (trad. Or creative commons or otherwise)? And 
add a
> > > link-back as well so the vlogger can be contacted if need be?
> > >
> > > This wouldn't solve the Veoh issue, but it would mean that if 
your
> > work was
> > > being used in contexts outside of your knowing, it would at the 
very
> > least
> > > retain attribution and an address that would enable you to be
> > contacted so
> > > interested parties could find more of the work that you've made.
> > >
> > > Daryl
> > > http://feztv.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/4/06 2:03 PM, "videoblogging@yahoogroups.com"
> > > <videoblogging@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Message: 20
> > > >  Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:51:05 -0000
> > > >  From: "David Howell" <taoofdavid@>
> > > > Subject: Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding 
Feeds...)
> > > >
> > > > For me, the problem is that the videos of mine that Veoh has 
are
> > > > videos that I made to advertise my wifes business. On the 
original
> > > > posts on my site, I put a link to her site. Veoh does not 
link back to
> > > > my site. Thus my wife is losing possible clients.
> > > >
> > > > Also, I am not credited with making the videos. A violation 
of my
> > > > copyright.
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> > > >
> > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
> > > > <andrew@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Otherwise, what's the problem? Is anyone that has been 
complaining
> > > >> about Veoh (including me once before) lost any money or 
viewers
> > > >> because of them?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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