David
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Shut up? Thanks for the great advise Josh.
>
> The point of the matter is that David last said this:
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> > Uhhh...Gumby isnt public domain.
>
> and he also said this:
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> > >>> It looks like Veoh and their promise to rid their site of
> > >>> copyrighted
> > >>> material was rather empty.
>
> These statements are false.
>
> Let it be known people on the videoblogging list that these
> statements are not true.
>
> If I dont speak up, no one else will.
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> On Apr 24, 2006, at 1:37 AM, Josh Leo wrote:
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> > what the heck is going on here... both of you shut up and start
> > talking about the issue at hand here... put your ego's aside and
> > have beneficial discussion,.,
> >
> > On 4/24/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Way to stay off-topic and avoid your dishonest and false statements.
> > None of it is your fault per say, and I assume you can't help it, but
> > I only addressed you to let you know that you were wrong.
> >
> > On Apr 24, 2006, at 1:19 AM, David Howell wrote:
> >
> > > Oh Andrew...please feel free to get your stubby little fingers
> > typing
> > > away then. Rather than write back to me though, address whatever
> > it is
> > > you have to say to the owners of the Gumby copyright.
> > >
> > > David
> > > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
> > > <andrew@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> David, I could add a pretty long rant about knee jerking responses
> > >> but I'll just suck it up and get right to the point:
> > >>
> > >> Copyrights and trademarks can expire, lapse or be changed for a
> > >> number of reasons. I have found that in fact there are several
> > Gumby
> > >> cartoons that are a part of the public domain. Here are a few:
> > >> http://tinyurl.com/p283s
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Apr 23, 2006, at 9:45 PM, David Howell wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Uhhh...Gumby isnt public domain. The little guy is far from that.
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.gumbyworld.com/copy.htm
> > >>>
> > >>> It looks like Veoh and their promise to rid their site of
> > >>> copyrighted
> > >>> material was rather empty.
> > >>>
> > >>> David
> > >>> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> > >>>
> > >>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, WWWhatsup <joly@> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I don't know if that's true that Gumby is public domain - it's
> > 60's
> > >>> right?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> However if stuff is in the public domain, yes one is free to make
> > >>> any kind
> > >>>> of derivative work, and then even copyright that work.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hence the development of such animals as the GPL in order to
> > ensure
> > >>>> that 'free' works can only be spawned into further 'free' works.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> joly
> > >>>>
> > >>>> At 03:24 PM 4/22/2006, you wrote:
> > >>>>> I noticed on Veoh, they have a complete Gumby video on the home
> > >>> page in the 'featured videos' section.
> > >>>>> <http://veoh.com>http://veoh.com/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I assume the particular Gumby video
> > >>> < http://tinyurl.com/jruf7>http://tinyurl.com/jruf7 is public
> > domain
> > >>> because Michael Eisner is featuring it, along with a couple of
> > >>> complete Superman videos that I have seen tagged as public
> > domain on
> > >>> the Archive before.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Since I am then allowed to use the public domain video of
> > Gumby to
> > >>> create or recreate my own work, or version, wouldn't that mean
> > >>> that I
> > >>> may also freely refashion Gumby for a contemporary world? In
> > >>> otherwords, if I am able use the video myself to make my own
> > >>> video, I
> > >>> would make a new Gumby out of the old Gumby. I would use the
> > >>> music in
> > >>> the video, mash the likeness, reshape him a bit physically
> > speaking,
> > >>> but would especially make his psyche much different; he would
> > do and
> > >>> say different kinds of things and have different body
> > behaviors, for
> > >>> instance. I might have some plans to add a couple of permeant
> > >>> deformations to his walk and give his a few classic behavioral
> > >>> problems, for instance. Gumby himself could change and evolve
> > >>> instead
> > >>> of be trapped in time, the way he is now. Perhaps I could give
> > >>> the new
> > >>> Gumby away for free and encourage others to take him and develop
> > >>> him.
> > >>> Gumby could be reborn into a global star!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Would I be allowed to do all of the above with my public domain
> > >>> Gumby without getting into trouble with the Gumby trademark and
> > >>> other
> > >>> later, non-public domain Gumby stuff claimed to be owned entirely
> > >>> by a
> > >>> private entity?
> > >>>>> < http://tinyurl.com/mgu4q>http://tinyurl.com/mgu4q
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I would assume that somehow, I would not be able to reshape
> > Gumby,
> > >>> even if I did it all with the materials that I got from the public
> > >>> domain Gumby video.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Surely, there is a conflict here and I would assume there is a
> > >>> simple answer that has already been worked out legally. Does
> > anyone
> > >>> know what that would be?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
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