yes. it's those limitations that I am referring to when I say that it's preferrable. until it actually impedes user's in great numbers from viewing content, though, i dont' think it will have any great impact on sites like youtube.

as a viewer, i don't own a tivo, an ipod, psp or a cellphone so it doesn't much matter to me how the content is presented (although i absolutely can't stand autostart vids!)

as a producer, however, i do care whether or not my videos are rss compatible and i prefer that they are. videobloggers might be more inclined to care about rss. i don't think it's particularly important to large numbers of video uploaders though...not yet, anyway.

many video hosting sites don't seem to be too concerned about it either and, imagine, they won't be until their uploaders/viewers demand it.

On 5/31/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> rss is definitely preferable to those who use it. unfortunately, the number of people using it is still quite low. i don't know if the majority of people watching online videos are concerned enough about it for rss formats to have an impact. i have three teenaged kids who are well aware of rss but opt for youtube instead. i have no idea why.


I don't necessarily think RSS is "preferrable" -- its just different.
With YouTube and other video portal sites you can browse around easier.
But, you don't get the same ability to syndicate. So for creators it
will eventually be limiting until YouTube and the other sites begin to
think beyond the web.

RSS will be built into your Tivo, iPod, cell phone, etc... many sites
and services today already support it and its only a matter of time
before it becomes pretty much de facto.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that RSS is not only about end users
viewing stuff in a News Reader application even though that is how
many of us experience it today. RSS is also used as connective tissue
behind the scenes of many current and future web services.

-Josh


On 5/31/06, Anne Walk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> i think that youtube is big because most of their viewership is there for porn/dancing girl and funny videos (bootlegged content or otherwise). people who want their videos viewed in the largest arena will choose a site like youtube to host it.
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> if yahoo has a policy that is as open as youtube, they will be able to compete. otherwise, they will never get the numbers that youtube generates. somehow, i'm not so sure that yahoo will be as open though. they have had run-ins in the past with chat.
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> i know that yahoo chat lost huge numbers when they clamped down on chat rooms and closed user rooms.
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> i'm sure there will be some that will prefer to be hosted by other sites but, unless yahoo opens up in terms of content, i dont' see a mass exodus. mind you, i saw that they are also going to be a directory for off-site content. if they don't censor that content, it might help boost the number of viewers. hard to say what impact that would have on those looking for hosting services.
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> as for spam...is it "spam" to put your vids up on all hosting services or is it spreading your content around? not sure about the use of the word spam in this context...
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> rss is definitely preferable to those who use it. unfortunately, the number of people using it is still quite low. i don't know if the majority of people watching online videos are concerned enough about it for rss formats to have an impact. i have three teenaged kids who are well aware of rss but opt for youtube instead. i have no idea why.
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> I think this already exists.
> Not sure if all of it is spam (some of it is), but I know people try
> to "seed" videos in many of these clip sharing communities.
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> Ultimately, it will be your RSS feed that should syndicate your videos
> into all these various services or personalized aggregators, etc... or
> so i'd like to think.
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> -Josh
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> > If a user ultimately wants to embed the video somewhere else, will it
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> > Maybe "spam vloggers" will emerge and start posting the same video to
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