I am so tempted to respond.  And where this a group on linguistics,
philosophy or such, I would :)

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Richard (Show) Hall"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't usually get in on these, but this one really intrigues me ...
> plus, I'm trying to avoid doing my monthly family finances, which is
> always a creative adventure ...
>
> On 6/2/06, Shannon Noble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > nothing NEEDS context.
>
> ... For a "thing" to be a "thing" it needs context. What is a "thing"?
> I couldn't tell you unless I had context, you see. None of any of this
> makes sense without context.
>
> It seems like you are trying to say vlogs are bad because they are
> interpreted within some context (they are "enculturated") ... This is
> the same as saying, vlogs are perceived.
>
> There is this fundamental process, where an object impinges on a sense
> organ - from than instant the "signal" is translated into a neural
> signal, and intensely manipulated, and eventually it is "labeled" - it
> is given meaning probably someone in association areas of the cortext
> (in class, I used to say "then a miracle happens").
>
> There is nothing that can be labeled or given meaning that is not
> "enculterated".
>
> The best we can do - the only thing we can do - is to recognize that
> this process of subjective perception is "reality".
>
> What we think of as "objective" and "emperical" is ultimately consensus.
>
> > you begin falacy at that point. as well as personal manipulation,
in order
> > to control your world around you.
>
> ... I guess I would want to know which part of Shannon's
> thinking/agurments/perception would NOT be classified as "personal
> manipulation" ... everything I'm saying and perceiving here is
> certainly "personal manipulation" ... I can't imagine how it could be
> otherwise ...
>
> >
> > langauge is a tool.
> >
> > used to manipulate in order to get what you want.
>
>  .... I'm pretty sure what you wrote above would constitute
> "language", so, it follows ... well, you know ...
>
> ... I would say that language is the great and fundamental abstraction
> tool that allows us to function in the world ... and have interesting
> discussions like this, I might add ...
>
> ... well, that was fun ... Richard
>
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