I added "rel= enclosure" because it is supported by some now. As a podcaster the things I look for when preparing my feeds are what methods are supported by the big guys. If the group of the major players where support a spacific method of identifing thumbnails then I will add it to my feeds. I suspect that other podcasters and developers along with your lesser competition would start to support it too.. making it the defacto standard.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Meiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wrote a big ripping post on this on the main videoblogging group. What can > I say... it was pertinent. :) > > Sorry, I might have called you all out by name. ;) > > I play dirty. :) > > -Mike > > On 2/8/07, Peter Van Dijck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I don't think there's anything really wrong with <img src="" > > rel="thumbnail">, to signify that this image is the thumbnail for a > > video/audio enclosure of this post. RSS generating tools (Feedburner) > > could > > use it to add the relevant thumbnail mediaRSS, and aggregators (mefeedia) > > can use it to display the thumbnail the videoblogger wants to show (a > > common > > request). I'd say just do it, start supporting it in mefeedia and let > > people > > know they can use it. > > > > Peter > > > > On 2/8/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, maybe we should skip the whole overriding media microfotmat > > > thing... > > > and in true microformats style solve the simplest and most necissary > > > problem > > > first. > > > > > > I.E. <img src="" rel=thumbnail> > > > > > > It's actually hard for me to believe people aren't actually using this > > > somewhere in the RSS-o-sphere. Has anyone seen anything. > > > > > > It perfectly in keeping with other specs like rel=tag, rel=enclosure, > > > rel=payment and a host of others. > > > > > > It will also work with perfectly with other forms of media feeds like > > > audio, > > > and photocasts as well. It's a univeral element. > > > > > > Any objections to this? > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > > On 2/8/07, duthied2004 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <duthied%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey all. > > > > > > > > I've been out of the loop on this list for some time and have tried to > > > > catch up on this, so forgive me if stuff has been said/asked > > before.... > > > > > > > > But, I'd love to hear how people are setting the thumbnails for their > > > > entries....do you use mediarss on your site, is it only in the > > > > 'description' of the post, in a thumbnail element in the item > > > > elements? As Mike mentioned it's a hodge-podge currently. > > > > > > > > Glad to see the same names on here still, as well as many more new > > ones. > > > > > > > > -Devlon > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > > > groups-yahoo-com@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There is also a larger issue Bill which Josh touched on. > > > > > > > > > > The general problem is that while 90% (or some otherwise very hight > > > > > percent of vloggers) have thumbnails in their posts they are not > > > > > "semantically" specified. This is to say they are not specified in > > > > > standard way which can be recognized by aggregators and search sites > > > > > like Fireant, vlogdi, mefeedia and others. For example... eclosures > > > > > can be specified in your blog post among other ways by a microformat > > > > > standard "rel=enclosure". There is no standards for huge amounts of > > > > > supporting meta infromation like thumbnails, i.e. there is no > > > > > "rel=thumnail". > > > > > > > > > > We're working on mechanisms not only to better identify thumbnails > > in > > > > > blog posts, among other things, by creating a new media Microformat. > > > > > It should not only have a tremendous immediate impact for people who > > > > > use services like blip, feedburner, mefeedia, fireant and others, > > but > > > > > it should also put this control into YOUR hands if you like when > > > > > you're writing a blog post. > > > > > > > > > > P.S. Josh, I hope you'll collaborate on this media microformat as > > well > > > > > as sharing other ideas on sharing thumbnail information. > > > > > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > mmeiser.com/blog > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/07, Peter Van Dijck <petervandijck@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey Josh, I haven't checked that feature in like a year, so it may > > > > have > > > > > > stopped working.. let Frank know if you have any questions about > > > > that, I'm > > > > > > sure he'd be happy to get it running again.. all my fault! > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/07, Joshua Kinberg <jkinberg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We're currently working on this issue and plan to have a big new > > > > > > > release of the FireAnt website in February. This new release > > will > > > > > > > support the Media RSS namespace for thumbnails. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, we can grab thumbnails from blog posts if they are > > > > included > > > > > > > in the link to the video enclosure file like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <a href="http://link/to/video.mov"; rel="enclosure"><img > > > > > > > src="http://link/to/thumbnail/image.jpg"; /></a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We also have the ability to get thumbnail images from MeFeedia, > > > > but it > > > > > > > seems that MeFeedia may have disabled this feature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps explain... please stay tuned for our new website > > > > > > > update that will address this along with many other bug fixes > > > > and new > > > > > > > features. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > Josh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://FireAnt.tv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/07, billshackelford > > > > > > <bshackelford@<bshackelford%40gmail.com>> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > My videos do not have thumbnails on FireAnt. It seems they do > > > not > > > > > > > utilize the Yahoo Media > > > > > > > > RSS namespace attributes. Is there a reason why? If there is a > > > > legal > > > > > > > reason.. why don't they > > > > > > > > just come up with their own namespace? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe I read something about FireAnt getting thumbnails > > from > > > > > > > Mefeedia but my > > > > > > > > thumbnails show up Mefeedia fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if there is something I can do to have my > > > > thumbnails > > > > > > > show up on FireAnt? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my channel on FireAnt: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > billshackelford.com podcast > > > > > > > > http://fireant.tv/directory/channel/22981 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Find 10000s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com > > > > > > my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ > > > > > > my job: http://petervandijck.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Find 10000s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com > > my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ > > my job: http://petervandijck.net > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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