I think what's needed is a new CC license that says "you can freely make copies, as long as you show me in a positive light". We could get Napoleon the pig to help us write it up.
- Andreas Den 18.02.2007 kl. 20:56 skrev Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Also your question returns me to my point. If I CARE what the person >> that I linked to thinks, I'm going to let them know that I linked to >> them. If I DON'T CARE, I won't. What difference does it make to me? >> They posted something, and I reported on it or posted what I thought >> about it. Who cares? I don't think that's Ourmedia's goal, exactly >> the opposite. I think they posted AiB because they DO care and wanted >> more people to be aware of the work they do. Whether they choose to >> take the time to consider how someone they re-vlog feels about it is >> up to them. Like I said, this is a unique situation, where people are >> reporting on an actual war that's currently going on. Most videos are >> about fluff or comedy or nonsense or things that completely aren't >> controversial or important at all, so this gives us the opportunity to >> discuss something that we normally wouldn't have, and perhaps come to >> the conclusion that one of the chances you take by posting videos on >> the internet is that even the people that appreciate what you do and >> try to help you out may end up misrepresenting you. > > yep...you are right on here. > No one needs to tell me that I'm being revlogged. > BUT if they want to build a real relationship with me...it's nice to > be contacted. > This reminds me of my days with local news when we'd roll into > someone's house, grab a soundbite, and then spin the story anyway the > producer wanted. > Blogging is a reaction to this method. > > I guess what bothered me about Brian's original email was his leaps in > logic. > He went from (paraphrase), I don't like how I'm represented here...to > (quote): "It also makes us question the openness supposedly present in > the Videobloggers community". > As Bill points out, these conversations allow us to help shape best > practices where there were none. That's what I love about this > particular email list...we've always been able to contribute to the > conversation because so many of us are active...and its a VERY SMALL > world. > Let's always give people time to respond so we can weed out the "sorry > my mistake" from the "fuck you". > > As far as Ourmedia, Steve brings up some good points. > > ***begin disclaimer*** > I was one of the original volunteers who hepled get Ourmedia started. > We were solving a very specific problem. > Back in 2004...the only way you could post a video online was on your > own server or paying Typepad. > Ourmedia was solving a problem of giving an easy front end to > Archive.org. It was exciting. > Blog post: > http://vloggercon.blogspot.com/2005/02/vloggercon-05-conference-sessions.html > Video: > http://www.archive.org/details-db.php?mediatype=movies&identifier=VloggerCon05SessionsNetworkofthefuturenetworkoffuturevloggercon05mov > ***end disclaimer*** > > Since 2004, there are now 250+ free video hosting sites. > Blip really started became the default uploader on this list since OM > (all volunteer) couldnt never innovate fast enough. > > So what role should Ourmedia play? > Maybe highlight stuff that's "good"? > Maybe help people find each other for collaboration? > I think Ourmedia needs to be better at organizing and helping push the > CRAFT of media creation. > I know that Markus has taken on the job of re-energizing the > functionality of the site. > I think its all open. > > I agree that the "250,000 members" is needless hyperbole. > I bet that many people have signed up and never come back...but its > still pretty active. > See all the media that still gets uploaded daily: > http://www.ourmedia.org/videos (20 videos uploaded in 30 minutes) > http://www.ourmedia.org/audios (20 audio files in 2 hours) > http://www.ourmedia.org/images > http://www.ourmedia.org/texts > > Jay > > > -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen <URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ >
