That is an interesting and amusing comparison. Im not a youtube hater, and although I take issue with the way youtube does some stuff, Im prone to think that most people using youtube dont need to know that videoblogging even exists. The service they are using may be inferior in some ways, but its brought them to the online video party so its already proved its worth.
Now a possible reason why this yahoo group may be tolerated or liked by most, and change will be resisted, is because its basically serving a purpose, and the purpose is not at the very centre of their vlogging lives. Yahoo features dont affect their video or their blog or anything else they are doing in or out of the communities associated with this list and vlogging in general. It suceeds in sending messages, and its active, it doesnt go wrong too often, and I dont see very many people wishing they could communicate with everyone here using rich video. I wish I did see everyone here saying that, but I dont. Is 'this community' likely to keep on giving birth anyway, or is it natural that its fertility should decline? Has it spent most of its reproductive force on vloggercon, node101, and other fine community things, is it natural to assume that evolution from this quarter will slow? Whilst Im sure we can agree that such things require a community to work, how much of them are the creation of very specific people, without whom no community things like vloggercon would have been created at all? What is the difference between a project that people who belong to this community create, but essential is 'theirs', and something thats community created, driven, controlled all the way? Oh I dunno, I more than half gave up of such progress happening en mass from this particular part of the internets. What have I got for comparison? Hows the podcasting community? They got any popular forums, lists, group blogs etc which are partially frequented by the same people as form the realworld meetings/events of the podcast community? Anyways if it doesnt look like this sort of thing is gonna happen here, then Id guess it may happen somewhere else, spontaneously. Who knows where, the humans are the driving force, the first tool/site/service they choose that seems to work, or where they meet and realise they have a common dream, means they are just as likely to emerge from youtube or anywhere else, whatever drawbacks may exist. Good luck to them, who can say if the batton has already passed,or what role any new media powerhouses or creative nurturing network entities ma come along in the future to fill this space. How much video remains in the browser, podcasting and mobile phones etc, DRM, how people connect the net to their TV's, how old media responds, how much of a phase personal vlogging and youtubing is for people, what happens with social networking sites like myspace, along with real-world factors like the state of the economy and how much free time people have, all make their mark on the unknown future of humans and video on the net. Video on the internet becoming normal and an expected feature on a vast range of sites, will also have consequences for who makes up any videoblogging communities anyway. In a world where 'everyone' was vlogging, a list specialising on vlogging would be inhabited mostly only by those with a very specific passion for some element of vlogging, that made it necessary to discuss for its own sake. One of the problems with politics is that politicians and institutions do not like to make themselves obsolete. Wheras a necesary consequence of making vlogging accessible to the masses, is that its so accessible that guides and pioneers no longer need to be sought in order to get on the path. So youtubes motorway isnt surfaced quite the way we'd like it, and theres something nicer about the good old path, but whoa that motorway can sure shift some traffic, reach humans, no manual required. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just found it interesting the juxtaposition between 'transferring > this communities values' to the you tubers and general public when > 'this community' is doing the same thing here on this list; getting > an inferior product and making some company money because it is 'easy'. >
