Right, and it was actually experimented with on vlogwall.com. In another recent thread I made mention of that too. The idea of the vPiP approach and SMIL/RSS usage seemed perfect, at least conceptually. This was last Summer mind you. So I made a gridwall of vPiP embeds of Video RSS Feeds (I just call them vodcasts). RSS feeds were transformed to SMIL. I had added pre and post clips to demonstrate what could be ads, cc licenses, branding bumps etc. So an entire video feed could technically be played back right within the embedded player and you could easily switch around to different feeds by clicking the other vPiP images/embeds.
But, as mentioned before, Quicktime SMIL does tend to get overwhelmed and can suffer buffering delays or hangups. It worls better when every video is optimized small clips and the user doesnt jump around the playlist to much. So all in all, not ideal for the mass audience of net video, unfortunately. It's all about Flash when it comes to web based playback and playlisting of video. It just works more smoothly than anything else and now that Flash Video quality has improved so much in the past 12-18 months.... there is no reason to take full advantage of the platform right now. I also mentioned Jeroen's Player<http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=Flash_Media_Player> His is probably the basis several video services. YouTube started off using it and I have been using it since he released the first version long ago. It's good stuff and he has been actively developing and fixing it over the years. I recently talked to Jeroen again about supporting SMIL extensively. It's not a simple undertaking, but I think a SMIL smart Flash Wrapper is a big deal and I am pushing for him to consider expending the time on development of that (as well as myself and others). Of course, you can do alot by way of custom namespaces in RSS or XSPF to achieve all kinds of cool functionality. But the idea of utilising a standards compliant format and what I think is just an extremely cool XML spec... SMIL could make a comeback in the web. Its been around a long long time and nobody really ever talks about it. It is commonly used for mobile phone networks however. I just think it can be brought into the limelight and be used creatively again and now with Flash as the wrapper instead of Quicktime or Real. Sull On 4/15/07, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thats brilliant news, cheers. vPIP is wonderful stuff, the flash > > player being closed isnt exactly a big issue, I just got curious about > > how everyone makes these things, and what efforts are out there that > > are happy for others to build on top of them. I wouldnt want to do > > anything that went against the spirit of what the creator intended > > when releasing their stuff. > > > > Could you explain if/what sort of use of SMIL your vPIP can do? Is it > > passing SMIL along to play in quicktime or something else? > > Yes, there's basic support for SMIL in quicktime (passing SMIL along > should be the accurate description.) I haven't done work in SMIL > myself, but setup support for SMIL in vPIP during debugging with > Michael Sullivan having vPIP with SMIL on vlogdir.com. > > In the vPIP package the file, InitSMIL.mov, gives SMIL activation support. > > -- Enric > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve Elbows > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Enric" <enric@> wrote: > > > > > I plan to release an open version of the included flash flv player in > > > vPIP. Right now it's under development for features I'm writing for > > > the cinegage site (not ready yet.) Once I can package the flash flv > > > player so it has some commenting, cleaned up code and useable, I'll > > > release that version under an open license. > > > > > > BTW, You can use any flash flv player in vPIP including the one by > > > jeroenwijering. See > > > > > > http://vpip.org/home/playing-flash/ > > > > > > -- Enric > > > -======- > > > http://cirne.com > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
