There is a BIG difference between a film being shown IN a class with the professor ( Face to Face), and being put up on line for students to watch whenever and how often they want. UCLA and Georgia State were not doing this to help OFF campus students who could not go to class, they were doing it because either the professor did not want to use the class time for the film, wanted the students to watch it again or wanted to add extra films to the class. No one was being deprived. The law allows a film to be used in class or put on reserve but it does not allow them to be available at anytime , any place, even for a student enrolled in a class. If you are talking about OFF campus students who don't have access to the class screenings. are being charged for online access? Why does University get all that money for that but owners of the material used in class get nothing? Only the University gets to charge for putting material online?
It is both legal and logical for rights holder to want more for vastly expanding the use of their film. I point out again that it was not big studios or entertainment companies that sued UCLA & Georgia State and got them to STOP doing this, it was small independent companies whose existence was a stake. Do you hold the same position that you can scan a entire book for students in a class to watch so they don't have to buy a copy? Legally it is identical, but I don't see a big push to save students the cost of buying a copy of Franny & Zoe by just posting it online? As for blaming the professors. It is true they can't do much on their own, but I have found them to be most eager bunch to violate copyright to get what they want. Too many think nothing of using a dub copy, or something they downloaded off the internet. Jessica ( who definitely needs to go out to lunch) On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Foster, Jennifer <fost...@uhv.edu> wrote: > At the risk of extending this firestorm further, I did not read anything > at all in Chuck’s response that suggested advising anyone to do anything > illegal. It is indeed up to the organization’s management to decide for the > organization what risks they are willing to take. It is our responsibility > to inform and educate, and to make our position known. But in a democratic > society isn’t it also our responsibility to stand up and be counted when we > think something is wrong? That’s what our kids did (if even inadvertently > and perhaps misguidedly, if that’s a word…) to get the music industry to > change. > > > > And blame the professors? OK, sometimes, but come on – how is it their job > to keep up with this mess, when even we who focus on it are often confused!? > They are trying to reach their students in relevant ways. Professors with > whom I discuss this issue – universally – don’t like it, but they hear it > and understand what I say whether they agree or not. Put it in the context > of that book they published and they are even more understanding. > > > > Allowing films to be shown in their entirety in a face-to-face classroom, > but not to students in the same class via a closed password-protected > network when registered is just not right. Economically motivated, business > oriented, protective of revenue streams, but not right. Those students – > some of whom paid MORE for online access - are entitled to the exact same > education that those who sit in the classroom are entitled to. > > > > Two more cents…jen > > > > Jennifer Foster > > Media Librarian > > The Victoria College/University of Houston-Victoria Library > > 361.570.4195 > > fost...@uhv.edu > > http://vcuhvlibrary.uhv.edu > > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > >
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
