*Most* importantly, the WB and Criterion versions are shorter as implied by the description in an earlier post. Chaplin took out a scene or two in his authorized 1971 version (showing the mother wracked by guilt that most people feel makes it a better film) but the out-of-print Image Entertainment release<http://www.amazon.com/Kid-Dogs-Life-Charles-Chaplin/dp/6305760047/ref=sr_1_4?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1287599742&sr=1-4>is the only authorized one that has those scenes put back in. Something to consider.
Best, Dennis Doros Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero PO Box 128 Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 Fax: 201-767-3035 email: milefi...@gmail.com www.milestonefilms.com www.ontheboweryfilm.com www.arayafilm.com www.exilesfilm.com www.wordisoutmovie.com www.killerofsheep.com AMIA Philadelphia 2010: www.amianet.org Join "Milestone Film" on Facebook! On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Jessica Rosner <jessicapros...@gmail.com>wrote: > PS I don't mean to imply this version is not "legit' . Film is PD so it is > NOT a bootleg, but it also won't have the Chaplin score because it is not > the "Authorized" version. Sorry for any confusion. > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Music Hunter <musichun...@nyc.rr.com>wrote: > >> Hi Kim, >> >> One need not purchase this expensive 2 disc set to obtain The Kid. >> >> Music Hunter has the single disc ( see below ) for $ 12.97. I do not >> believe it contains the score though. >> >> We sent an inquiry to the manufacturer to find out & we will advise as >> soon as they respond. >> >> Sincerely at your service, >> >> Jay Sonin, General Manager >> >> The Kid >> (Full Frame, Black & White) >> >> >> >> >> Starring: Charles Chaplin, Jackie Coogan, Edna Purviance, Carl Miller, Tom >> Wilson >> >> Release Date: 4/22/2008 >> UPC: 882012000274 >> Director: Charles Chaplin >> >> Genre: Melodrama, Slapstick >> Run Time: 67 >> Flags: Excellent For Children >> Distributor/Studio: A2Zcds Inc 200027 >> >> Charles Chaplin's first feature-length film pairs his Tramp character with >> an orphan boy, forging a life together in a slum reminiscent of Chaplin's >> childhood London home. Finding humor in the extreme harshness of the Tramp's >> impoverished existence with his plucky adopted foundling, Chaplin turns the >> pair's survival into a series of comic set pieces depicting such events as >> their scheme to sell windows and their daily breakfast rituals. Coordinated >> in their movements and well-matched in their temperaments, the Tramp and the >> Kid are the perfect pair, underlining the potential for tragedy when the >> child welfare authorities step in. Still, having revealed the Tramp's >> paternal devotion in a bravura chase scene and a whimsical dream sequence, >> Chaplin reunites the redefined family for a happy ending. Chaplin overcame >> First National's resistance to his desire to make a dramatic comedy, and he >> wrote, directed, and starred in a major success. Shot over nine months and >> accompanied by a score composed by Chaplin himself, The Kid became an >> critically hailed international hit, launching Jackie Coogan as a major >> child star. With a blend of social realism and finely tuned physical comedy, >> Chaplin infuses The Kid with a pathos and sweetness that would later mark >> one of his greatest features, City Lights (1931). >> >> The Kid was Charles Chaplin's first self-produced and directed feature >> film; 1914's 6-reel Tillie's Punctured Romance was a Mack Sennett production >> in which Chaplin merely co-starred. >> >> The story "with a smile and perhaps a tear," begins with unwed mother Edna >> Purviance leaving the Charity Hospital, babe in arms. Her burden is >> illustrated with a title card showing Christ bearing the cross. The father >> of the child is a poor artist who cares little for of his former lover, >> carelessly knocking her photo into his garret fireplace and cooly returning >> it there when he sees it is too badly damaged to keep. The mother >> sorrowfully leaves her baby in the back seat of a millionaire's limousine, >> with a note imploring whoever finds it to care for and love the child. But >> thieves steal the limo, and, upon discovering the baby, ditch the tot in an >> alleyway trash can. Enter Chaplin, out for his morning stroll, carefully >> selecting a choice cigarette butt from his well used tin. He stumbles upon >> the squalling infant and, after trying to palm it off on a lady with another >> baby in a carriage, decides to adopt the kid himself. Meanwhile Purviance >> has relented, but when she returns to the mansion and is told that the car >> has been stolen, she collapses in despair. Chaplin outfits his flat for the >> baby as best he can, using an old coffee pot with a nipple on the spout as a >> baby bottle and a cane chair with the seat cut out as a potty seat. >> Chaplin's attic apartment is a representation of the garret he had shared >> with his mother and brother in London, just as the slum neighborhood is a >> recreation of the ones he knew as a boy. >> >> Five years later, Chaplin has become a glazier, while his adopted son (the >> remarkable Jackie Coogan) drums up business for his old man by cheerfully >> breaking windows in the neighborhood. Purviance meanwhile has become a world >> famous opera singer, still haunted by the memory of her child, who does >> charity work in the very slums in which he now lives. Ironically, she gives >> a toy dog to little Coogan. Chaplin and Coogan's close calls with the law >> and fights with street toughs are easily overcome, but when Coogan falls >> ill, the attending doctor learns of the illegal adoption and summons the >> Orphan Asylum social workers who try to separate Chaplin from his foster >> son. In one of the most moving scenes in all of Chaplin's films, Chaplin and >> Coogan try to fight the officials, but Chaplin is subdued by the cop they >> have summoned. Coogan is roughly thrown into the back of the Asylum van, >> pleading to the welfare official and to God not to be separated from his >> father. Chaplin, freeing himself from the cop, pursues the orphanage van >> over the rooftops and, descending into the back of the truck, dispatches the >> official and tearfully reunites with his "son". Returning to check on the >> sick boy, Purviance encounters the doctor and is shown the note which she >> had attached to her baby five years earlier. Chaplin and Coogan, not daring >> to return home, settle in a flophouse for the night. The proprietor sees a >> newspaper ad offering a reward for Coogan's return and kidnaps the sleeping >> boy. After hunting fruitlessly, a grieving Chaplin falls asleep on his >> tenement doorstep and dreams that he has been reunited with the boy in >> Heaven (that "flirtatious angel" is Lita Grey, later Chaplin's second wife). >> Woken from his dream by the cop, he is taken via limousine to Purviance's >> mansion where he is welcomed by Coogan and Purviance, presumably to stay. >> >> Chaplin had difficulties getting The Kid produced. His inspiration, it is >> suggested was the death of his own first son, Norman Spencer Chaplin a few >> days after birth in 1919. His determination to make a serio-comic feature >> was challenged by First National who preferred two reel films, which were >> more quickly produced and released. Chaplin wisely gained his distributors' >> approval by inviting them to the studio, where he trotted out the delightful >> Coogan to entertain them. Chaplin's divorce case from his first wife Mildred >> Harris also played a part; fearing seizure of the negatives Chaplin and crew >> escaped to Salt Lake City and later to New York to complete the editing of >> the film. Chaplin's excellent and moving score for The Kid was composed in >> 1971 for a theatrical re-release, but used themes that Chaplin had composed >> in 1921. Chaplin re-edited the film somewhat for the re-release, cutting >> scenes that he felt were overly sentimental, such as Purviance's observing >> of a May-December wedding and her portrayal as a saint, outlined by a >> church's stained glass window. >> >> Charles Chaplin - The Tramp >> Jackie Coogan - The Kid >> Edna Purviance - Mother >> Carl Miller - Artist >> Tom Wilson - Policeman >> Albert Austin - Man in Shelter >> Henry Berman - Lodging House Proprietor >> Raymond Lee - His Kid Brother >> Charles "Chuck" Riesner - The Bully >> Robert Dunbar - Bridegroom >> Jack Coogan, Sr. - Guest >> Jack Coogan, Sr. - Pickpocket >> Beulah Bains - Bride >> John McKinnon - Chief of Police >> Edgar Sherrod - Priest >> Rupert Franklin - Bride's Father >> Lita Grey - Flirting Angel >> Jules Hanft - Physician >> Walter Lynch - Tough cop >> Phyllis Allen - A Woman >> Nellie Bly Baker - Slum Nurse >> Henry Bergman - Night Shelter Keeper >> Kitty Bradbury - Bride's Mother >> Frank Campeau - Welfare Officer >> Esther Ralston - N/A >> >> >> Directors >> Charles Chaplin >> >> Producers >> Charles Chaplin >> >> Composer >> Charles Chaplin >> >> Screenwriter >> Charles Chaplin >> >> Others >> Eric James - Additional Music >> Roland H. "Rollie" Totheroh - Cinematographer >> Jack Wilson - Cinematographer >> Charles Hall - Production Designer >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: Stanton, Kim >> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:06 PM >> Subject: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score? >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'm looking for a DVD copy of The Kid (1921) with the score (1971 reissue >> of the film). Can anyone who owns it confirm that Warner's Chaplin >> Collection version includes the score? Or is there another source? >> >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Kid-2-Disc-Special/dp/B00017LVNC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1287593101&sr=8-1 >> >> Thank you! >> Kim >> >> Kim Stanton >> Head, Media Library >> University of North Texas >> kim.stan...@unt.edu >> P: (940) 565-4832 >> F: (940) 369-7396 >> >> >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. 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