I have tried on a number of occasions to send correcting information re:
Face-to-Face Teaching and 108, in a very simple, straightforward way,
and have never noticed any effect or change in the misinformation being
disseminated. This makes me think that distributors either can't be
bothered, or don't care and still feel entitled to a higher price from a
library (which is, of course, always up for debate -- tiered pricing is
another issue entirely, apples and oranges). Clarity is important,
though. I don't get the warm fuzzies for the distributors who
misrepresent what's 'required' to use their works. At the end of the
day, we will purchase what our instructors need -- but if I'm looking at
ways to spend discretionary funds, I'll choose a distributor who's fair
and knowledgeable when all else is equal.
*************************
Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
Associate Librarian
Instructional Media Collection Department
Morris Library, University of Delaware
181 S. College Ave.
Newark, DE 19717
(302) 831-1475 <tel:%28302%29%20831-1475>
http://www.lib.udel.edu/ud/instructionalmedia/
On 5/25/2011 11:18 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote:
This is true. My money is on the misunderstanding of copyright law.
Someone could send them a copy of Section 108. Not sure how you would
word it, but something like "We have decided to make our film
available to individuals at a lower cost but we need to maintain a
higher price to institutions to make back the money we spend making
the film" Not waiting for that though.
I think films whose target market is institutions would be better off
not making films available to individuals.
If the film is popular enough to get major sales on the home market go
for it, but otherwise it just leads to confusion.
I am hoping that steaming rights make this obsolete. Public
Performance rights are usually of limited value to institutions (
though some may want to show certain films on campus) but streaming
rights are something I suspect universities will increasingly need so
offering titles at higher price but including those rights might work
for both sides providing the pricing is fair to both.
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Meghann Matwichuk <mtw...@udel.edu
<mailto:mtw...@udel.edu>> wrote:
But, they're still propagating misinformation: "[T]he purchase
price of this film for colleges and universities is our list
educational price of $400, which includes public performance
rights /so it can be screened in classrooms/." It's either done
with a very incomplete understanding of the laws that affect their
business, or it's intentional misdirection. Either way it drives
me batty. If the 'so it can be screened in classrooms' had been
left off, ok, I get it. Tiered pricing. But slipping those seven
words make me not want to purchase their titles.
Grumble grumble,
*************************
Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
Associate Librarian
Instructional Media Collection Department
Morris Library, University of Delaware
181 S. College Ave.
Newark, DE 19717
(302) 831-1475 <tel:%28302%29%20831-1475>
http://www.lib.udel.edu/ud/instructionalmedia/
On 5/24/2011 12:55 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
<mailto:ghand...@library.berkeley.edu> wrote:
Here's the deal, Laura
Zipporah (and many others) are not charging high prices because you're
showing stuff in the classroom--they're charging these prices primarily
(exclusively) because they're selling to institutions and they feel those
are the prices the market will bear, including, in Zipporah's case, sales
to individuals.
Gary
Here's another case of a filmmaker wanting a large sum for the right to
show films in a classroom - Zipporah Films. In this case I was merely
purchasing a personal copy but they saw my university email address.
Comments?
Laura J. Ruede, MLS
Assistant Music/Media Librarian; Van Cliburn Archivist
Library Liaison to the School for Classical and Contemporary Dance
Mary Couts Burnett Library
Texas Christian University
From: Zipporah Films [mailto:ord...@zipporah.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:35 AM
To: Ruede, Laura
Subject: Zipporah Films Order 6501- university purchase?
Importance: High
Dear Ms. Ruede,
Thank you for your order of Frederick Wiseman's film BALLET. Since you
listed a school email address, I am writing to confirm whether you are
purchasing the film for home use. If not, the purchase price of this film
for colleges and universities is our list educational price of $400, which
includes public performance rights so it can be screened in classrooms.
I look forward to hearing from you soon so we can process your order.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Kasey Skeen
Office Manager
Zipporah Films, Inc.
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