Hi Tyra Well, I think the notion of focusing on a genre or type of content is interesting, but I think it's likely not to be all that productive in terms of zoning in on potential OD VHS titles. A lot (most?)opera available is (or has been)available as home video...hard to predict the number of titles in this subset which may have gone OD, or whether opera goes OD any faster than, say, feature films or workout tapes...
Still, the valuable thing about this approach may be that it's a manageable place to start... gary > Gary, > This is an interesting discussion---if you hadn't sent that list > initially, I may not have honed-in on this as an area of identifiably high > risk---I think we tend to think about lack of access to VHS players but > not so much that not all VHS tapes are, or will be, digitized. What's > more, this doesn't seem to be common knowledge among bibliographers or > curators. > > My interest in surveying our VHS tapes, at this point anyway, is to try to > prevent or minimize risk of loss to those tapes that have not been (and > may never be) digitized. Our general collection VHS tapes are in open > stacks---they can be played in-house or checked-out. We have little > control over their use and I can only assume we're not always informed if > a user encounters problems playing them---even if it's at a point where, > thru intervention or transfer at that point for VHS-only tapes, we could > prevent total loss. I've been wondering whether it would benefit us to be > able to identify (and possibly provide alternative levels of access to) > VHS-only titles that we don't want to lose and can't replace. > > We do have a very large collection of opera VHS tapes of particular > interest to me for a variety of reasons; one being that our opera VHS > collection may include a fair concentration of VHS-only titles although I > haven't tested this prediction---I may be full of beans on this. In any > event, I've considered focusing on this collection initially. Gary, I > wonder if you'd considered this approach (i.e., narrowing your > identification to an area that possibly contains a higher % of > VHS-only)---not sure it's a valid approach to the Mellon research goals > but thought I mention it. > > Tyra > > > -----Original Message----- > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of > ghand...@library.berkeley.edu > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:58 AM > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] "VHS ONLY" updates? > > Hi Matt (et al.) > > The Mellon project--a partnership involving NYU, UCB, and Loyola > University (New Orleans)--is much more broadly empirical than that. The > deliverables include the formulation of general strategies and best > practices for identifying current/potential out-of-distribution VHS > materials (i.e. materials which are OD and unavailable for purchase in > other formats). We will also be considering best practices for dealing > with/preserving these titles, particularly digital solutions as allowable > under Section 108 (BE QUIET, JESSICA--we have a high-powered > media/communications lawyer on board keeping us honest). > > The difficult initial task has been to identify a manageable, or least > likely, collection universe for investigation. The first-pass at doing > this has involved identifying titles held uniquely by the institutions > involved. (We're using OCLC records to do this...not an easy task!) > > These operational strategy discussions have been complex and sometimes > slightly contentious. Although the strategy discussed above seemed > sensible to me initially, now that we're into it, I've got some concerns: > items which are unique to a collection are often not items which are most > significant or useful in the life of working collections. (All three > collections involved are working collections, not archives, after all). > I'm currently trying to figure out alternative ways of going about this > identification business... > > In any case, the lists I put out there were earlier, rough attempts at > informal sampling of MRC's collection--not a formal part of the Mellon. > > More later! (The grant runs for two years) > > gary > > > >> Hi Becky, >> >> It seems like the hard part, creating the list, has been done. >> >> Gary, you mentioned that the grant included NYU, have they published >> their list? Also, was there a deliverable for the grant? Was it >> just the list you published or was there also something else, if you're >> allowed to say? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matt >> >> ______________________________ >> Matt Ball >> Media and Collections Librarian >> University of Virginia >> mattb...@virginia.edu >> 434-924-3812 >> >> On Aug 4, 2011, at 8:41 PM, "Tatar, Becky" <blt...@aurora.lib.il.us> >> wrote: >> >>> Um - a question from the peanut gallery - Wouldn't a list of vhs >>> titles that have not been released on DVD, while not infinite, be >>> very very large, and almost unwieldy to maintain? Just sayin, but >>> for your level, what do I know. >>> >>> Becky Tatar >>> Periodicals/Audiovisuals >>> Aurora Public Library >>> 1 E. Benton Street >>> Aurora, IL 60505 >>> Phone: 630-264-4100 >>> FAX: 630-896-3209 >>> blt...@aurora.lib.il.us >>> www.aurora.lib.il.us >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >>> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Ball, James >>> (jmb4aw) >>> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 5:25 PM >>> To: <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> >>> Subject: Re: [Videolib] "VHS ONLY" updates? >>> >>> It depends on what we mean by "maintain." In its simplest form there >>> could be a webpage with columns for title, laserdisc, VHS, and DVD, >>> and then someone (me?) to update it. Then I would just depend on >>> people to let me know what needs updating. Or there could be a Wiki >>> that anyone could update. I'm sure there are other, better (more >>> 21st century) tools that we could use. I'm happy to help. >>> >>> Ideas anyone? >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> ______________________________ >>> Matt Ball >>> Media and Collections Librarian >>> University of Virginia >>> mattb...@virginia.edu >>> 434-924-3812 >>> >>> On Aug 4, 2011, at 6:11 PM, "Grant, Tyra" <tgr...@ku.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> I was wondering the same---and Gary or someone else might have a >>>> good >>> sense of this---seems that maintaining such a list could be messy >>> business, eh? >>>> Tyra >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >>>> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Ball, >>>> James >>>> (jmb4aw) >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 3:43 PM >>>> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >>>> Subject: Re: [Videolib] "VHS ONLY" updates? >>>> >>>> In Gary's original message there is this postscript: >>>> >>>> "PS: Chris Lewis...weren't you maintaining a list of titles that >>>> had >>> never been released on DVD? If so, could you pls publish the list. >>> Merci!" >>>> >>>> Chris, do you indeed have such a list? >>>> >>>> I wonder if some enterprising media librarian(s) should compile a >>> "master list" of these titles in a format that can be accessed by >>> anyone on this listserv so that it can be updated when anything >>> changes, and list members notified? Or has this idea already been >>> floated and shot down? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Matt >>>> >>>> ______________________________ >>>> Matt Ball >>>> Media Services Librarian >>>> University of Virginia >>>> mattb...@virginia.edu >>>> 434-924-3812 >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >>>> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of >>>> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 4:16 PM >>>> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >>>> Subject: Re: [Videolib] "VHS ONLY" updates? >>>> >>>> You're a better librarian than I am, Tyra...couldn't find my >>>> original >>> anywhere. >>>> >>>> I also sent a subsequent listing of literary adaptations and >>> performances that seem to be OP...list attached. >>>> >>>> gary >>>> >>>> >>>>> Here's my copy. >>>>> Tyra >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >>>>> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of >>>>> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:36 PM >>>>> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >>>>> Subject: Re: [Videolib] "VHS ONLY" updates? >>>>> >>>>> Hmmm...not sure where I put this. I'll see if I can dig it up. >>>>> >>>>> gary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hey Gary, >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you have a link to your list of VHS ONLY titles?? We've >>>>>> embarked >>> >>>>>> on a VHS --> DVD project here too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris McN >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>> Chris McNevins | ACQUISITIONS COORDINATOR UNIVERSITY OF >>>>>> CONNECTICUT >>>>>> | HOMER BABBIDGE LIBRARY >>>>>> 369 Fairfield Way Unit 2005AM | Storrs, CT 06269-2005 USA >>>>>> PH: 860-486-3842 | FX: 860-486-6493 | EMAIL: >>>>>> chris.mcnev...@uconn.edu ________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu >>>>>> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of >>>>>> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:06 PM >>>>>> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Videolib] "VHS ONLY" updates? >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> No updates on this end. >>>>>> >>>>>> It may go without saying, but...I'd definitely focus on >>>>>> non-fiction film first (maybe exclusively). >>>>>> >>>>>> When approaching feature (i.e. non-fiction), start with foreign >>>>>> language films first. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are certain distributors that are no longer in business: >>>>>> >>>>>> Films Incorporated >>>>>> Time-Life Film and Video >>>>>> Coronet Films (mostly) >>>>>> Carousel Films >>>>>> CRM Films >>>>>> National Latino Communications Center (NLCC) Drift Distribution >>>>>> International Film Bureau International Media Resource Exchange >>>>>> (IMRE) >>>>>> >>>>>> University of California Center for Media and Independent Learning >>>>>> (note: >>>>>> some titles in this catalog are still distributed by Berkeley >>>>>> Media >>>>>> LLC) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Likely to be Out of Distribution >>>>>> >>>>>> PBS Home Video/PBS Video: films with release dates before 2000 >>>>>> Annenberg/CPB Project pre-2000 CPB New Yorker Film and Video >>>>>> (feature >>>>>> films) >>>>>> >>>>>> Anything distributed by a non-profit organizations, or academic >>>>>> institutions (e.g American Mathematical Assn.) pre-2000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Available for re-purchase on VHS only (and therefor not eligible >>>>>> for >>> >>>>>> Section 108 copying) >>>>>> >>>>>> Roland Films on Art (many titles in this catalog only available on >>>>>> VHS) Lannan Foundation Video Library (available on VHS only) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Greetings, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm beginning to plan a VHS holdings survey where our first step >>>>>>> would >>>>>> be >>>>>>> to determine how many of our VHS collections might be unavailable >>>>>>> on >>>>>> DVD. >>>>>>> I do have Gary's 8/11/11 "Berkely's 'VHS ONLY' list" . Are there >>>>>>> updates, compiled or other lists available in addition to Gary's? >>>>>> Also, >>>>>>> thoughts or words of advice for conducting VHS collection surveys >>>>>> would be >>>>>>> welcome---I'm just now beginning to plan. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tyra Grant >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tyra Grant >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Digital preservation and electronic media officer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> University of Kansas Libraries >>>>>>> >>>>>>> tgr...@ku.edu<mailto:tgr...@ku.edu> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Phone: 785-864-8951 >>>>>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion >>>>>>> of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>>>>> acquisition,bibliographic >>>>>>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video >>>>>>> formats >>>>>> in >>>>>>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list >>>>>>> will >>>>>> serve >>>>>>> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a >>>>>> channel of >>>>>>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and >>>>>>> video >>> >>>>>>> producers and distributors. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Gary Handman >>>>>> Director >>>>>> Media Resources Center >>>>>> Moffitt Library >>>>>> UC Berkeley >>>>>> >>>>>> 510-643-8566 >>>>>> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >>>>>> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >>>>>> >>>>>> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." >>>>>> --Francois Truffaut >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion >>>>>> of >>> >>>>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>>>>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of >>>>>> current and evolving video formats in libraries and related >>>>>> institutions. It >>> >>>>>> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >>>>>> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>>>>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>>>>> distributors. >>>>>> >>>>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion >>>>>> of >>> >>>>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>>>>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of >>>>>> current and evolving video formats in libraries and related >>>>>> institutions. It >>> >>>>>> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >>>>>> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>>>>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>>>>> distributors. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gary Handman >>>>> Director >>>>> Media Resources Center >>>>> Moffitt Library >>>>> UC Berkeley >>>>> >>>>> 510-643-8566 >>>>> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >>>>> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >>>>> >>>>> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." >>>>> --Francois Truffaut >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion >>>>> of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>>>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>>>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. >>>>> It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool >>>>> for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>>>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>> distributors. >>>>> >>>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion >>>>> of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>>>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>>>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. >>>>> It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool >>>>> for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>>>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>> distributors. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Gary Handman >>>> Director >>>> Media Resources Center >>>> Moffitt Library >>>> UC Berkeley >>>> >>>> 510-643-8566 >>>> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >>>> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >>>> >>>> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." >>>> --Francois Truffaut >>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >>> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >>> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>> distributors. >>>> >>>> >>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >>> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >>> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>> distributors. >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >>> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >>> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>> distributors. >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >>> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >>> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >>> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >>> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >>> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>> distributors. >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >> acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current >> and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It >> is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for >> video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between >> libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >> distributors. >> > > > Gary Handman > Director > Media Resources Center > Moffitt Library > UC Berkeley > > 510-643-8566 > ghand...@library.berkeley.edu > http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC > > "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." > --Francois Truffaut > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
