No Gary, there was nothing wrong with this copy and nothing wrong with thousands of 16m copies that many institutions are transferring. I am sure a few of them might be in "danger" but in general 16mm is very sturdy format and lets not be naive that many institutions are wholesale transferring them and many wholesale streaming them as well as VHS & DVD copies. Unless a copy is deteriorating OR in "dead" format you have no legal right to make a copy. This film and the one copied and streamed by the name redacted to protect the guilty did not have that issue. It is absolutely about convenience and money ( it certainly costs more to deal with 16mm), neither of which passes the smell test for 108.
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 1:41 PM, <ghand...@library.berkeley.edu> wrote: > The issue isn't dead formats, Jessica, it's whether the item is available > is currently distributed in the same or other formats and available for > purchase at fair market. I agree that simply copying because it's more > convenient doesn't really fly. > > g > > > > >> With all due respect the entire transfer was ILLEGAL. 16mm is NOT a >> dead format. Films are in fact still being shot in 16mm. I can give >> you 20 places where you can buy or service a projector You transferred >> something for convenience not because it was in either a dead or >> degrading format. I know 16mm is a bitch. I know lots of schools have >> transferred to VHS or DVD from perfectly good 16mm copies because they >> did not want to be bothered. >> >> Gary if you want to know why this angers me so much let me tell you a >> little story. An independent filmmaker was startled when a friend told >> him he saw one of his films >> on a campus streaming system. This film had never been released on DVD >> or even VHS. He had sold a 16mm copy to this institution. It is widely >> known that this institution which is VERY active in your Carnegie >> project and other library media works has in fact transferred a HUGE >> 16mm collection and routinely streams the titles for classes. >> Don't tell me they promise to buy a DVD when they are released? Of >> course the filmmaker in question was never even contacted. >> >> This one does not even get to the can't loan it off premise question. >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Stanton, Kim <kim.stan...@unt.edu> >> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> >>> Our collections contains a small number of VHS tapes we’ve transferred >>> from >>> 16mm films, using Section 108. We received an Interlibrary Loan request >>> today for one of these 16mm films, but I want to send out the VHS copy. >>> I >>> don’t immediately see anything in 108 that would prevent us from ILLing >>> the >>> VHS copy, but though I’d pose this as a question for the list. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> Kim Stanton >>> >>> Head, Media Library >>> >>> University of North Texas >>> >>> kim.stan...@unt.edu >>> >>> P: (940) 565-4832 >>> >>> F: (940) 369-7396 >>> >>> >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues >>> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >>> control, >>> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries >>> and >>> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an >>> effective >>> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication >>> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>> distributors. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jessica Rosner >> Media Consultant >> 224-545-3897 (cell) >> 212-627-1785 (land line) >> jessicapros...@gmail.com >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve >> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> > > > Gary Handman > Director > Media Resources Center > Moffitt Library > UC Berkeley > > 510-643-8566 > ghand...@library.berkeley.edu > http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC > > "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." > --Francois Truffaut > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
