Gary,

No comment on the copyright issues (though I think due diligence towards
finding the owner or director would be nice since come to think of it, I
rarely see this question come up in the listserv), but I feel sad for all
those job losses of young men in glasses that wheeled 16mm projectors and
prints around campus. No wonder why unemployment is so high.

And for accuracies sake, I did it in high school, but I was wearing contacts
by then...

Dennis

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:13 PM, <ghand...@library.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> Ok...this'll really get Jessica going.
>
> I suspect (but, hey, I ain't no lawyer) that a fairly strong case
> could/would be made for transferring 16mm to another format in an academic
> setting if: 1) the title were legally acquired in the first place and 2)
> thorough and well-documented due diligence regarding purchase of a
> replacement in a more usable format could be demonstrated. 3) the
> institution could demonstrate the general lack of access to 16mm
> projection equipment in the venues in which the material was generally
> shown (e.g., classrooms)
>
> Just a suspicion (based on on-going work with Mellon)
>
> gary
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > and what about transferring a perfectly healthy 16mm to VHS in the first
> > place?
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Deg Farrelly <deg.farre...@asu.edu>
> > wrote:
> >> I disagree with Gary's comment about loaning.
> >>
> >> The provisions of Section 108 limiting use to within the library applies
> >> to *  digital  * copies.
> >>
> >> 108 Section  (a) (c),
> >>    "or to distribute such copy or phonorecord, under the conditions
> >> specified
> >>    by this section, if ‹ "
> >>
> >> 108 Section (c)
> >> (2) any such copy or phonorecord that is reproduced in
> >>    * digital format *  is not made available to the public in that
> >> format
> >> outside
> >>    the premises of the library or archives in lawful possession of such
> >> copy.
> >>
> >>
> >> Emphasis added
> >>
> >> Since Kim asked about loaning VHS copies of 16mm titles, it is my
> >> opinion
> >> that Section 108 allows an ILL
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> deg farrelly
> >> Arizona State University
> >> P.O. Box 871006
> >> Tempe, AZ 85287
> >> Phone:  480.965.1403
> >> Email:  deg.farre...@asu.edu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>The other requirement is that the replacement be used within the library
> >>>building (depending on whom you talk to--which lawyer--this stricture
> >>> may
> >>>(MAY)be interpreted as allowing loan for use elsewhere on campus (BE
> >>>QUIET, JESSICA)).  Loaning the replacement would, I think, be skating
> >>> and
> >>>falling thru very thin ice, however.
> >>>
> >>>gary handman
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>>Our collections contains a  small number of VHS tapes we've transferred
> >>>>from 16mm films, using Section 108.  We received an Interlibrary Loan
> >>>>request today for one of these 16mm films, but I want to send out the
> >>>> VHS
> >>>>copy. I don't immediately see anything in 108 that would prevent us
> >>>> from
> >>>>ILLing the VHS copy, but though I'd pose this as a question for the
> >>>> list.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>>Kim Stanton
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jessica Rosner
> > Media Consultant
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> > jessicapros...@gmail.com
> >
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>
>
> Gary Handman
> Director
> Media Resources Center
> Moffitt Library
> UC Berkeley
>
> 510-643-8566
> ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
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>
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> --Francois Truffaut
>
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>



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