Michael,

You have it right. I believe there have been some situations where it's not
the use of the film that's been focused upon in cases, but the breaking of
the encryption. (Like that garage opener case that I mentioned a few weeks
ago.) But I'm assuming fair use is still a factor for both sides.

What does this mean about previous classroom exemptions, however? I'm also
assuming they are still in effect but this seems to be adding some
non-traditional educational use like museums? Again, unless the copyright
laws are directly changed, I doubt it. Yet, this is ambiguous and can be
taken out of context.



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On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Brewer, Michael M - (brewerm) <
brew...@email.arizona.edu> wrote:

> I mostly agree with Jessica. However, I have questions about what 1201
> allows and doesn’t allow in these cases. It seems to me that the 1201
> exemptions and fair use (or other exceptions) are different things and are
> supposed to be considered separately. Couldn’t one potentially legally
> circumvent encryption, but still violate the law, depending on the actual
> “fairness” of the actual use.? If anyone out there knows the answer to
> this, I’d be interested in hearing it.
>
>
>
> For example, could I circumvent encryption for a particular use (a
> noncommercial documentary, my dissertation on film, etc.), but in using the
> “heart of a work” still be able to be sued for copyright infringement, or
> does my adherence to the 1201 rule keep me safe?
>
>
>
> mb
>
>
>
> Michael Brewer | Librarian | Head, Research & Learning |
> brew...@email.arizona.edu
>
>
>
> *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2015 12:03 PM
> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] New 1201 exemptions
>
>
>
> My very quick take is that it expands both formats ( blu ray , streaming
> now included) and users who can break encryption use portions ( clips) of
> AV works. Not sure I see a big effect on university stuff as I don't really
> know if folks felt constrained about using clips in any class/stream though
> I guess profs will like blu ray option.  The biggest change I see is only
> tangential  to academic use but it seems to basically eliminate the need to
> ever license a clip for documentary or fiction av work.
>
> The  important thing from my evil perspective of working with filmmakers
> and distributors is that they rejected the request for any exemptions
> allowing educational ( or any) user to go beyond using "limited portions"
> of works.
>
> I am sure others will find much more
>
> Jessica
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Randal Baier <rba...@emich.edu> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have an accurate summary in normal speak that can still be
> precise without using legal language?
>
>
>
> ==============
> Randal Baier
> Eastern Michigan University
> Ypsilanti, Michigan 48197
> (734) 487-2520
> rba...@emich.edu
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> “... do not all strange sounds thrill us as human
> till we have learned to refer them to their proper
> source?” -Thoreau, mss., Journal 9: 1854-1855
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Sarah E. McCleskey" <sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu>
> *To: *videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 27, 2015 9:46:43 AM
> *Subject: *[Videolib] New 1201 exemptions
>
>
>
> https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2015-27212.pdf
>
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