Yes, that list has traveled around. If it is the same one. It
was really straight out of Brown. And not even the update
materials are complete.
I am now on my THIRD copy of Brown, the earlier copies were so
torn apart from use I have retired them. So I am quite aware of
where there are
errors, but so very, very few. Especially when you realize his
work is from the1960s. It's truly amazing, imho. The very first
volume of RISM appeared at that time, so he did not even have
access to that basic information until he was nearly finished.
In many
ways it is a masterpiece of music bibliography. Surely it must
stand among the top five or six books in that field. It really
should stand as a model for HOW to make a music bibliography. He
thought everything through.
We are really so very fortunate to have Howard's excellent work
at our disposal.
=====AJN (Boston, Mass.)=====
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Monica Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Arthur Ness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: 4c music... is there any?!
| Well - as a librarian I can assure you that it is impossible to
compile a
| bibliography or catalogue which is 100% accurate - or even 99%.
(I've
| tried). The point about Howard Brown's book is that it was
first published
| in 1965 - over 40 years ago and is somewhat out of date. It
would help if
| people gave their source of reference. I think that all the
information in
| the Appalachian list is from Brown.
|
| Actually Mudarra's 4-course music is the earliest surviving -
printed in
| 1547 whereas Barberiis was printed in 1549.
|
| The latest thinking on the 4-course music in Barberiis is that
it is for a
| small 4-course lute. The term Italian term "chitarra" is
somewhat
| ambiguous in the 16th century.
|
| Now I must away and watch the Lute Society taking part in
University
| Challenge on TV over here! Fingers crossed they get into the
semi-finals!
|
| Monica
|
| (aka Doubting Thomas)
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Arthur Ness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Cc: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
| Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 7:12 PM
| Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: 4c music... is there any?!
|
|
| > ----- Original Message -----
| > From: "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > To: "Monica Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > Cc: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
| > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:00 PM
| > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: 4c music... is there any?!
| >
| >
| > | At 12:45 PM 4/8/2008, Monica Hall wrote:
| > | >Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: 4c music... is there any?!
| > | >>Check out this little page from Appalachian State
University
| > (Dr. Douglas
| > | >>James' program):
| > | >><http://www.library.appstate.edu/music/lute/gtrlst.html>
| > | >
| > | >Which is a bit inaccurate. The music in Barberiis is not
for
| > a 7-course
| > | >guitar, but for a 4-course instrument (7 strings - 3
courses
| > doubled, the
| > | >1st single). It is probably not for guitar either - but
| > that's another story.
| > |
| > | "7-course"!? That must be a typo.
| > |
| > |
| > | >Amat's book was first printed in 1596 and is for 5-course
| > guitar. It
| > | >doesn't include any music apart from a few musical
examples..
| > |
| > | The Appalachian State University page isn't specifically
for
| > sources of
| > | 4-course guitar music, but sources of guitar music printed
in
| > the 16th
| > | c. Not 4-course, but the first appearance of Amat's book
| > certainly is
| > | appropriate to that condition, even if the date they give
it is
| > also
| > | subject to typographic error.
| > |
| > | Best,
| > | Eugene
| > ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo|
| > It's especially important to check information when it seems
| > improbable. Indeed the mistake is copied from Howard's
| > bibliography, and he doesn't usually make such mistakes. I
see
| > the guy in New Grove gets it correct, when he smooths over
| > Brown's error<g> by writing, "The last
| > book (1549) includes . . . four short pieces for seven-string
| > (four course) guitar. The latter pieces, euphemistically
called
| > 'fantasias', are notable for their popular character; one
uses
| > the _bergamasca_ and another employs a drone bass."
| >
| > If not for guitar, what instrument is intended? It is the
| > earliest printed source for guitar music, as far as I know.
| > =====AJN (Boston, Mass.)=====
| > Free Download of the Week
| >
| > This week's free download from
| > Classical Music Library is
| > Ginastera's Estancia Suite, Op. 8a,
| > performed by the
| > Carlos Chavez Symphony Orchestra;
| > Fernando Lozano, conductor.
| > Click on the CML link here
| > http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/
| > ===================================
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > To get on or off this list see list information at
| > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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