As said, it would be revealing to see if other pieces in the MS do not always completely specify instruments and identify an accompanying melody instrument on the top line. The Baerenreiter edition may allow you to check this: - please let us know about the other pieces (is instrumentation always given?); similarly for the title (do they always list the complete instrumentation in the title of pieces in this MS?).
Perhaps the 'chitarra' was only mentioned as it was so unusual (and to give it a Spanish flavour)? MH --- On Sat, 9/5/09, David van Ooijen <davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote: From: David van Ooijen <davidvanooi...@gmail.com> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: [VIHUELA] Re: [VIHUELA] Haendel - Cantata Spagnuola To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, 9 May, 2009, 9:39 AM On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Martyn Hodgson <[1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > Without having seen the original MS it's difficult to be sure if > Chrysander's edition is wholly accurate, certainly his naming the two > upper staves of the system as for guitar seems editorial (since he > places the chittara in brackets). It would also be revealing to see if > this MS usually identifies a particular instrument on the top line or > if it was assumed (a violin, oboe or flute perhaps). Further, if the > upper line is played an octave down (as you rightly suggest more in the > period guitar tessitura) it crosses the bass line (eg bar 2). > > I suggest it more likely that the composer simply expected the guitar > to play along as continuo (hence second line down duplicating the bass > stave) and that a violin, or flute or oboe played the melodic upper > line. the bass then played by cello with/without keyboard. You might be absolutely right, and not having the original in front of us leaves all of our speculations rather academic, but I would think the continuo line to be played by whatever continuo group available or deemed appropriate and the top line to be played on a guitar of some sort. Actually, guitar in hand I find it not so much of a puzzle to fit it in a working tessitura on the instrument, just play as is but, indeed, an octave lower. Voice crossing with bass line, always in this cadens, but the guitar bass has an octave jump to emphasize what's the harmony - what to do about reentrant tuning with such octave jump in the bass is yet another question, not one that would have bothered Handel when writing this part, I imagine. Lovely 'Spanish' parallel chord progression by the way, and the constant play with B-flat C-sharp, too: flamenco! On the other hand, but we might have the wrong instrument in mind. Who knows, one of Handel's theorbo men might have had a guitar with a tuning that worked very well for this part or, more likely, Handel just left it to the guitarist to figure out what to do with the part. If he expected a violin to play the melody, it would surely say violin? It's a cantata for 'Voce sola e Chitarra', that suggests to me a guitar would play the solo voice. In whatever way, by including strumming chords when there's just a continuo bass for example, I certainly couldn't resist when playing through. I'll check the Baerenreiter next time in the library, perhaps it has something more to say. David -- ******************************* David van Ooijen [2]davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl ******************************* To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk 2. http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=davidvanooi...@gmail.com 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html