The title written at the top of the first page of the manuscript is "Cantata Spagnuola a voce sola e chitarra.". The guitar is the obligato instrument. There is no mention of flute or violin.

Monica


----- Original Message ----- From: "Martyn Hodgson" <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>; "Mjos & Larson" <rockype...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 9:04 AM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: [VIHUELA] Händel - Cantata Spagnuola




  Without having seen the original MS it's difficult to be sure if
  Chrysander's edition is wholly accurate, certainly his naming the two
  upper staves of the system as for guitar seems editorial (since he
  places the chittara in brackets). It would also be revealing to see if
  this MS usually identifies a particular instrument on the top line or
  if it was assumed (a violin, oboe or flute perhaps). Further, if the
  upper line is played an octave down (as you rightly suggest more in the
  period guitar tessitura) it crosses the bass line (eg bar 2).

  I suggest it more likely that the composer simply expected the guitar
  to play along as continuo (hence second line down duplicating the bass
  stave) and that a violin, or flute or oboe played the melodic upper
  line. the bass then played by cello with/without keyboard.

  MH

  --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Mjos & Larson <rockype...@earthlink.net> wrote:

    From: Mjos & Larson <rockype...@earthlink.net>
    Subject: [VIHUELA] Haendel - Cantata Spagnuola
    To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu
    Date: Saturday, 9 May, 2009, 7:07 AM

  I have been thinking to ask this group for ideas and suggestions on
  approaching Haendel's "No se emendera jamas " (Cantata Spagnuola a voce
  sola e Chitarra) for some time.
  The Chrysander edition is online at:
  [1]http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0001/bsb00016889/images/inde
  x.html?id=00016889&fip=66.41.254.100&no=5&seite=44
  Is it safe to assume it was written for a standard baroque guitar in E?
  I have no idea of the original source, but given the range of the part
  marked "Chitarra" I would think to play the melody down an octave from
  Chrysander's G-clef notation, which would take the melody from the
  fifth fret first string down to the second fret on the fourth course.
  This strikes me as a bit low for playing a solo part above the
  continuo.
  The bass notes only seem just to be a continuo line to harmonize.
  How might members of the group have performed this, and with what
  instrumental forces? Theorbo continuo only, or harpsichord? Bass viol
  only?
  Or do do we take the subtitle literally that it is only voice and
  guitar? Then we have a bit of a range problem with the written bass
  line and upper part (assuming my octave transposition of the upper
  voice).
  Does someone have knowledge of the original notation to be able to
  comment on the faithfulness Chysander's edition? He claims it is
  faithful here:
  [2]http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0001/bsb00016889/images/inde
  x.html?seite=7
  -- R
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References

1. http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0001/bsb00016889/images/index.html?id=00016889&fip=66.41.254.100&no=5&seite=44 2. http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0001/bsb00016889/images/index.html?seite=7
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