On 21/11/2010 09:45, Lex Eisenhardt wrote:

Even Carre has mentioned the 4th course bourdon, halfway his book.
Some have taken this as an indication that he wanted French tuning for accompani
ment
(compare Sanz). We can't be sure.

I only know the first publication of Carré. At the end of the solos there is a tuning chart in staff notation (and Monica thinks that this is lifted from Mersenne). The notes (on a treble clef with a b flat, for some reason) and all within one octave are: g,c,f,a,d. So it would seem that this is for a guitar with top string d'.

Then there are continuo exercises with an instruction under the first exercise to put on octave on the fourth. But (as Monica notes in her introduction) the tuning is now for a guitar with top string e'. So already there are puzzles! Why would he want a guitar at d' for the solos and and e' for accompaniments. Was the g,c,f,a,d tuning just lifted from Mersenne? Anyway, twenty seven pages of solos ends with fully re-entrant tuning chart. And the continuo exercises clearly has an instruction to put an octave on the the fourth....which presumably means, put on a low octave. (And, no mention at all of the which way around to put the high and low octave).

In her intro to the LGV edition of Carré, Monica notes concordances with Corbetta, Bartolotti and Sanz. (Interesting) and a German MS from c.1673


You forgot Briceno...

I would add the manuscripts of Monsieur Dupille, commissaire de guerre in Paris,
  from c.1649: F-Pg MS 2344, and two more. He has given
the re-entrant tuning in staff.
In one of the Castillion manuscripts in Brussels there are some pieces of Lelio
Colista, who Sanz has mentioned
as a master in Rome. Presumably re-entrant tuning.


Lex

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So - is this the list so far - of music that is acknowledged in the text itself as fully re-entrant?

1) Briceño
2) Carré
3) Valdambrini
4) (all/most/some?) Sanz
5)

the manuscripts of Monsieur Dupille, commissaire de guerre in Paris,
 from c.1649: F-Pg MS 2344, and two more

And more speculatively,

1) Lelio Colista


Of course, players in those times might have ignored these instructions and the whole situation could have been very fluid,varying from place to place and time to time.


Stuart


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