Yes - that seems possible. But why would the continuo group need to include guitar and spinetta as well as cembalo (harpsichord), organ and theorbo.
It seems quite a large ad hoc group of instruments. Monica ----- Original Message ----- From: [1]Martyn Hodgson To: [2]Monica Hall Cc: [3]Vihuelalist Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar continuo example Hello Monica, I've just returned from an extended Easter break and am catching up with emails, but this is more interesting than most........ Pitch standards come first to mind when thinking of any reason why the guitar part and the keyboard part should be a tone higher than the others. In short, if the chitarra. and the spinetta were generally kept at a tone below other instruments they would need such a part to enable them to play with the other instruments. Perhaps being more for domestic use than for formal concerts and thus not requiring so much 'brightness' might explain this practice. regards Martyn --- On Mon, 9/5/11, Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: From: Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar continuo example To: "Rockford Mjos" <rm...@comcast.net> Cc: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Date: Monday, 9 May, 2011, 17:49 Yes - that seems very likely. Singers/players would be listed in payrolls under just one heading. Multi tasking. Out of 16 people listed 13 are singers. Having looked more closely at the guitar part - it doesn't look very suitable for guitar - it goes down to E below the bass stave in places although these could be played an octave higher. The guitar part seems to be also for the spinetta - either/or perhaps. Has anyone tried to fit the parts together? Can anyone think of any reason why the guitar part and the keyboard part should be a tone higher than the others? Interesting. Monica ----- Original Message ----- From: [1]Rockford Mjos To: [2]Monica Hall Cc: [3]Vihuelalist Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Guitar continuo example If we are looking for possible guitarists to take that second hand-plucked part, Reggio comes to mind, though listed in the court payroll as a bass (singer) [See STMF 1961, p. 308] Kenneth Sparr had this comment: "During the period 1652-1654 Queen Christine of Sweden had a company of Italian musicians and actors employed. Among these musicians you find the theorbist and guitarist Angiol Michele Bartolotti as well as the singer, lutenist and guitarist Pietro Francesco Reggio. " [4][4]http://www.tabulatura.com/SWEGUIT.htm -- R On May 9, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Monica Hall wrote: Thanks for sharing the info with us. Your delving into this collection is enormously useful. It does look as if the guitar is supposed to be playing along with everyone else. But the list of artists in Albrici's ensemble paid in 1653 includes Bartolotti as the only theorbo player, one violinist/violist and one keyboard player. All of the rest of the artists seem to be singers. Perhaps they also played various instruments. Monica ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rockford Mjos" <[5][5]rm...@comcast.net> To: <[6][6]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Cc: "Lex Eisenhardt" <[7][7]eisenha...@planet.nl> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 5:38 AM Subject: [VIHUELA] Guitar continuo example While browsing the online Duben collection I stumbled upon a Sinfonia by Albrici with a part listed for Chitarra. It brought to mind Lex's inquiries about specific mention/uses of the guitar as a continuo instrument. Sinfonia a 6./Primo Tono./di/Sig:r Vincenzo Albrici./1654. You can have a look here: [8][8]http://www2.musik.uu.se/duben/presentationSource.php?Select_Dn r 66 On part 08 click on "Browse Part". 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