Yes - that seems possible.   But why would the continuo group need to
   include guitar and spinetta as well as cembalo (harpsichord), organ and
   theorbo.



   It seems quite a large ad hoc group of instruments.



   Monica

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: [1]Martyn Hodgson

   To: [2]Monica Hall

   Cc: [3]Vihuelalist

   Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:20 AM

   Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar continuo example

   Hello Monica,

   I've just returned from an extended Easter break and am catching up
   with emails, but this is more interesting than most........

   Pitch standards come first to mind when thinking of any reason why the
   guitar part
   and the keyboard part should be a tone higher than the others. In
   short, if the chitarra.
   and the spinetta were generally kept at a tone below other instruments
   they would need such a part to enable them to play with the other
   instruments. Perhaps being more for domestic use than for formal
   concerts and thus not requiring so much 'brightness' might explain this
   practice.

   regards

   Martyn
   --- On Mon, 9/5/11, Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

     From: Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
     Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar continuo example
     To: "Rockford Mjos" <rm...@comcast.net>
     Cc: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
     Date: Monday, 9 May, 2011, 17:49

      Yes - that seems very likely.   Singers/players would be listed in
      payrolls under just one heading.   Multi tasking.   Out of 16 people
      listed 13 are singers.
      Having looked more closely at the guitar part - it doesn't look very
      suitable for guitar - it goes down to E below the bass stave in
   places
      although these could be played an octave higher.   The guitar part
      seems to be also for the spinetta - either/or perhaps.
      Has anyone tried to fit the parts together?   Can anyone think of
   any
      reason why the guitar part and the keyboard part should be a tone
      higher than the others?
      Interesting.
      Monica
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: [1]Rockford Mjos
      To: [2]Monica Hall
      Cc: [3]Vihuelalist
      Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 5:16 PM
      Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Guitar continuo example
      If we are looking for possible guitarists to take that second
      hand-plucked part, Reggio comes to mind, though listed in the court
      payroll as a bass (singer) [See STMF 1961, p. 308]
      Kenneth Sparr had this comment:
      "During the period 1652-1654 Queen Christine of Sweden had a company
   of
      Italian musicians and actors employed. Among these musicians you
   find
      the theorbist and guitarist Angiol Michele Bartolotti as well as the
      singer, lutenist and guitarist Pietro Francesco Reggio. "
      [4][4]http://www.tabulatura.com/SWEGUIT.htm
      -- R
      On May 9, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Monica Hall wrote:
      Thanks for sharing the info with us.   Your delving into this
      collection is enormously useful.
      It does look as if the guitar is supposed to be playing along with
      everyone else.  But  the list of artists in Albrici's ensemble paid
   in
      1653
      includes Bartolotti as the only theorbo player,  one
   violinist/violist
      and one keyboard player.   All of the rest of the artists seem to be
      singers. Perhaps they also played various instruments.
      Monica
      ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rockford Mjos"
      <[5][5]rm...@comcast.net>
      To: <[6][6]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
      Cc: "Lex Eisenhardt" <[7][7]eisenha...@planet.nl>
      Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 5:38 AM
      Subject: [VIHUELA] Guitar continuo example
      While browsing the online Duben collection I stumbled upon a
   Sinfonia
      by Albrici with a part listed for Chitarra.
      It brought to mind Lex's inquiries about specific mention/uses of
   the
      guitar as a continuo instrument.
      Sinfonia a 6./Primo Tono./di/Sig:r Vincenzo Albrici./1654.
      You can have a look here:
      [8][8]http://www2.musik.uu.se/duben/presentationSource.php?Select_Dn
   r 66
      On part 08 click on "Browse Part". It's standard bass clef notation
      with figures.
      -- R
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