Very interesting. It has got tied on frets! And it is not really that
big - at least the string length is quite modest at 65cms. Many thanks for
supplying the link.
Youtube is deceptive especially as regards tone quality which often isn't
very good.
Monica
----- Original Message -----
From: "Braig, Eugene" <brai...@osu.edu>
To: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 6:02 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Lorimer's bibliography? (ISBN 0-9618527-1-2
Here is at least a little information on Romanillos' "baroque" guitars as
used by Bream:
http://www.kentguitarclassics.com/classical-guitars/jose-luis-romanillos/jose-luis-romanillos-of-semley-3
Enjoy.
Eugene
-----Original Message-----
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
Behalf Of Monica Hall
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:47 AM
To: Chris Barker
Cc: Vihuelalist
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Lorimer's bibliography? (ISBN 0-9618527-1-2
Yes. Re size - looking at clips of other people playing, his instrument
does look to me rather large. My way of judging is to compare the
player's
head with the size of the bouts!
It looks a heavily built instrument, perhaps with fan barring. Sounds as
if it is strung with nylon with overwound strings for the bourdons and it
wouldn't surprise me if it did have fixed frets.
But it is difficult to tell from a Youtube clip.
Monica
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Barker" <csbarker...@att.net>
To: "'Monica Hall'" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:18 PM
Subject: RE: [VIHUELA] Re: Lorimer's bibliography? (ISBN 0-9618527-1-2
Jose Romanillos made a five course baroque guitar, a four course
Renaissance
guitar, and a six course vihuela de mano for Julian Bream. He played all
three instruments on one album which I think was called The Guitar in
Spain.
Looking at photographs of those instruments I believe that they might
have
had fixed frets.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
Behalf
Of Monica Hall
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 12:52 AM
To: Braig, Eugene
Cc: Vihuelalist
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Lorimer's bibliography? (ISBN 0-9618527-1-2
Many thanks for the information. Most helpful.
Monica
----- Original Message -----
From: "Braig, Eugene" <brai...@osu.edu>
To: "Monica Hall" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
Cc: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: [VIHUELA] Re: Lorimer's bibliography? (ISBN 0-9618527-1-2
Bream's de Murcia was recorded on a 1983 "baroque guitar" by Jose
Romanillos.
Best,
Eugene
________________________________________
From: Monica Hall [mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 4:20 PM
To: Braig, Eugene
Cc: Vihuelalist
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Lorimer's bibliography? (ISBN 0-9618527-1-2
Please do - that would be helpful!
Monica
----- Original Message -----
From: "Braig, Eugene" <brai...@osu.edu>
To: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 9:16 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Lorimer's bibliography? (ISBN 0-9618527-1-2
Bream's recording actually did use a 5-course guitar (I can check the
exact phrasing in the liner notes when home from the office), but he
certainly favored a modern functionality when dabbling in "early"
instruments.
Best,
Eugene
-----Original Message-----
From: Monica Hall [mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 4:08 PM
To: Braig, Eugene
Cc: Vihuelalist
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Lorimer's bibliography? (ISBN 0-9618527-1-2
That's helpful. I have just realized that Harvey Hope recorded 4 pieces
by
Murcia in 1979to . He and James Tyler play "baroque instruments" but
Segovia and Bream presumably clasical guitar. I am sure there must be
more.
Monica
----- Original Message -----
From: "Braig, Eugene" <brai...@osu.edu>
To: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 8:33 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Lorimer's bibliography? (ISBN 0-9618527-1-2
I used to be on the guitar summit list, but I haven't looked in on their
activity for years. I'm not certain where to find them any longer . . .
or, as you've alluded, if they even still exist.
Regarding pre-1987 recordings of de Murcia's music, I am aware of:
- Andres Segovia on modern guitar (Prelude and Allegro: 1977);
- James Tyler on 5-course guitar (Preludio, Gabota, and La Burlesca:
1978); and
- Julian Bream on 5-course guitar (Prelude and Allegro: 1985).
I would expect there are more, but these are the ones I have
immediately
on hand in the day-job office.
Some modern-guitar characters with related interests and whom you might
want to try contacting directly (several of whom were active on the
summit
list): Matanya Ophee, Stanley Yates, Carlos Perez (and his teacher,
Ernesto Quezada), and maybe Oleg Timofeyev.
Luck,
Eugene
-----Original Message-----
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
Behalf Of Monica Hall
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 3:06 PM
To: Azalais
Cc: Vihuelalist
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Lorimer's bibliography? (ISBN 0-9618527-1-2
I have Lorimer's facsimile. What I am really trying to find out is
whether
there were any recordings of Murcia's music made before 1987 and also
whether any arrangements of it for classical guitar were published
before
that date. The date 1987 is crucial because that is when Lorimer's
facsimile of the Saldivar ms. was published and Murcia suddenly became
flavour of the month big time. Several people including myself did
dissertations on him in the late 70s-early 80s and Robert Strizich
refers
to him in his article on ornamentation in the LSA journal of 1974.
Incidentally I wondered whether anyone on the list is on the
Guitar-Summit
list. I sent my message to them because it is more orientated towards
the
classical guitar and I thought there might be someone who could answer
this query which is more about classical guitar versions than baroque
guitar.
But my message didn't seem to appear on that list and I haven't had any
response. Perhaps it is now defunct.
Regards to all
Monica
----- Original Message ----- From: Azalais
To: Monica Hall
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:32 PM
Subject: Lorimer's bibliography? (ISBN 0-9618527-1-2
Hello Monica,
Your mention of the pre-1987 cut off date for de Murcia references
leads
me to believe that you must already have access to Michael Lorimer's
book
and its bibliography.
If not, I have a copy, if you need anything from it.
Thank you for the research! I have always been a fan of De Murcia.
Azalais
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