On 2006-10-05, Bill McCarthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu 5-Oct-06 8:54pm -0600, Gary Johnson wrote:
>
>
> > On 2006-10-06, Peter Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > BTW, using
> >> >
> >> > gvim -u NONE -U NONE
> >> >
> >> > is both redundant (in the case of -U NONE), dangerous (since
> >> > default settings may truncate your viminfo on exit), and put
> >> > you in vi compatible mode. Better is:
> >> >
> >> > gvim -u NONE -i NONE -N
> >> >
> >>
> >> I wouldn't think the -i option is necessary, because 'viminfo' is
> >> empty by default anyway. Perhaps there should be a shell script
> >> distributed with vim so that anyone can start up vim cleanly.
> >>
> >> cleanvim.sh:
> >> vim -u NONE -i NONE -N --noplugin --cmd 'set rtp=$VIMRUNTIME' '+set
> >> rtp&'
> >>
> >> cleanvim.bat:
> >> gvim.exe -u NONE -i NONE -N --noplugin --cmd "set rtp=$VIMRUNTIME"
> >> "+set rtp&"
> >
> > Setting "-u NONE -i NONE -N" is all that's needed. See ":help -u".
> >
> > When {vimrc} is equal to "NONE" (all uppercase), all
> > initializations from files and environment variables are
> > skipped, including reading the |gvimrc| file when the GUI
> > starts. Loading plugins is also skipped.
> >
> > The viminfo file may be empty initially, but it probably is not once
> > vim has been run.
>
> Gary, the reason I use and suggested
>
> --cmd "se rtp=$VIMRUNTIME"
>
> is to prevent customizations such as adding all of your
> colorschemes, compilers, etc. in the Gvim menus, custom
> icons, etc. --cmd happens before menu.vim is sourced.
>
> The reason I use:
>
> "+se rtp&"
>
> is to have 'rtp' set as by default but without the side
> effects mentioned above.
>
> :h startup
>
> For "fun" start with the above but without the --cmd above
> but add -V99nocmd. Then include the --cmd above and with
> -V99wcmd. Finally do a vimdiff on nocmd and wcmd.
Well, I stand corrected. Thanks for explaining that. I was sure
that "-u NONE -i NONE -N" was as sufficient for gvim as it is for
vim. I had no idea that gvim was so insistent on loading certain
files. Sure enough, under ":help -U" it says:
Exception: Reading the system-wide menu file is always done.
But unfortunately it doesn't go on to say that this implies that
'rtp' will be searched for certain other files, e.g.,
autoload/paste.vim.
I also found this under ":help gui-init":
To skip loading the system menu include 'M' in 'guioptions'.
So to avoid loading _anything_, at the expense of not having any
menus, one could start gvim as
gvim -N -u NONE -i NONE --cmd 'set go+=M'
Regards,
Gary
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Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies
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| Spokane, Washington, USA
