Suresh Govindachar wrote:
> Frank Terbeck wrote: > Suresh Govindachar >> Personally, the step mentioned below, viz., "moving the mouse
  >> to the xterm" is a _big_ pain.  As a user, what I like about
  >> the idea of a shell inside vim is the means to avoid the mouse.
  >> <C-Z> in console vim does avoid the mouse but it doesn't allow
  >> simultaneous view and fast access of vim and the shell;  and
  >> the shell from <C-Z> doesn't support commands supported by a
>> vim buffer. > > Just use GNU screen <http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/>.
  > There's no need for a mouse just to switch between vim and a
  > shell at all.
Thanks, but I am on Windows. Also, poking around in https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/screen leads one to the mailing list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gnu-screen which has the notice: GNU screen is NOT developed any more.
       The maintainers only fix serious bugs.
From the dates of the files, development on screen stopped in Jan 2004.

I suspect developing a terminal is a complex project. - The rxvt shell from MinGW is not recommend by them for
        general use (and does odd things when one uses it
generally);
      - tcsh from Amol cannot run UnixUtils from
http://unxutils.sourceforge.net.
      - There is someone who patches vim to support a shell but does
        so only for Unix; he doesn't support it for Windows and I do
        not know if he has gone beyond 6.3 or 6.4.

  --Suresh


  --Suresh


Hi Suresh,

it may be that I'm being dense, but what is the problem with Alt-Tab ing between windows to use both a console and gvim?

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