Since John asked for wikibooks again, I've setup a poll to bring this discussion to an end. But before some last words:
> > Wikibooks does not ask you to create "structure in chapters,sections" up > > front. It is not even suggested! Suggested is "Content first" and > > "structure > > in chapters,sections" later. But I don't see any structure in the 1500 tips. Neither now nor later. That's the reason why tips are separated from the manual! Regarding the ads on wikia: The guys there told me that ads will be reduced much in space soon. And I even noticed ads on vim.org ... :-) Now for the vote: Please review the arguments before voting. I hope you can find all major arguments in the full quote at the bottom of this mail. Perhaps a word of Bram would be helpful !? Now here's the link to the poll: http://snappoll.com/poll/194388.php I propose to close the vote on Friday, May 25th, 12:00 +0200 (MEZ aka CET). (please ignore the funny graphic, it was the first result for "free poll" on google ...) Sebastian. Am Dienstag, den 15.05.2007, 21:06 +0200 schrieb Martin Krischik: > Am Dienstag 15 Mai 2007 schrieb Sebastian Menge: > > Am Montag, den 14.05.2007, 21:49 +0200 schrieb Martin Krischik: > > > Now refresh my mind: Why did we choose advertising ridden wikea over > > > advertising free wikibooks? > > > > There was already a lot of discussion on this topic but no real > > decision. I think that mediawiki is accepted as the most stable, > > feature-rich and spam-resistant software around. > > > > Given that we dont want to host the wiki ourselves, we need a hosting > > service: Here's a list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wiki_farms > > There are no mediawiki-based offers that are completely free. > > > > If someone has an idea where/howto host a mediawiki completey free, that > > would be best! > > > > Here my pros and cons for wikia vs wikibooks: > > > > 1 +wikia: no costs > > 2 +wikia: a complete wiki, not just a bunch of pages > > 3 -wikia: ads > > > > 4 +wikibooks: really free, open content > > 5 -wikibooks: is intended for books/lecture material. vim tips doesnt > > fit that. A real book would need a structure in chapters,sections etc. > > 6 +wikibooks: "personal" Administrator. > > > For me points 2 and 5 win. But anyway I would love to see a good VimBook > > on wikibooks. > > > > Other ideas/votes? > > Now on WikiBook there is allready a "real book" with structure in chapters, > sections ;-) - it's called "Learning the vi editor". Of the 16 chapters 7 > are Vim chapters :-). And I belive Vim covers more the 50% of the content. > > Now the Wiki motto is "Content first" so here my advertising free suggestion: > > 1) We add the Vim tips to the "Tips and Tricks" Chapter > 2) Once we we have enough tips (content) we split the book. > > Wikibooks does not ask you to create "structure in chapters,sections" up > front. It is not even suggested! Suggested is "Content first" and "structure > in chapters,sections" later. > > BTW: With a tabbed browser and a fast internet connection you can rename 10 > pages per minute - I once rename a 200 page book from "Programming:Ada" > to "Ada Programming". > > Martin > > [1] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Learning_the_vi_editor > [2] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Learning_the_vi_editor/Vim/Tips_and_Tricks
