On 12/03/18 22:06, Nikolay Aleksandrovich Pavlov wrote:
2018-03-12 0:36 GMT+03:00 Matthew Winn <v...@matthewwinn.me.uk>:
But editing tabular information is something that a great many people do.
It's not just a matter of working with tab-separated data files. How often
do you want to assemble columns of information in a text file where the
columns are inconvenient sizes? You wrote Vim so I'm sure you use it for all
sorts of things, and I bet there are times when you've found that spaces are
annoying for getting the columns aligned while tabs between every column
waste space and mean you run out of screen. That happens to me a couple of
times a week, and I doubt my requirements are anything exceptional. That's
the sort of common real-world situation this change addresses, and right now
it's something that can't be done in Vim at all. If I want columns of text
in a reasonable amount of space I need to use a spreadsheet, and then I have
to keep going through removing all the spurious ks and js and ZZs that
appear all over the place when I forget which environment I'm in.
Conveniently viewing tab-separated file is one thing, assembling is
entirely another. Who could you share such file except person using
(Neo)Vim with your patch?
What's wrong with personal use? I frequently use Vim for taking notes
about things or for setting out scraps of information in a form that's
easy to read. I almost never need to share files, but I still need a way
to set out information so I can use it most easily. This is a feature I
would use nearly every day.
Anyway, everyone who objects to the patch is missing the point. This is
a feature for which all the design work, all of the coding and most of
the testing has already been done. All that's needed is to include it.
Nobody will be harmed by this, so why is there such vehement opposition
to it?
How many people will use it is irrelevant. The point I'm trying to make
here is that all the opposition has been based around objections that
have never been used to object to other features. Where was the worry
about bloat or destabilisation when a terminal was being added to Vim?
Who raised concern that not enough people need it when it came to a new
regex engine? Why is this patch in particular so contentious?
If there was a good argument for not including it then that would be
fine, but all the arguments presented so far have been ludicrous and
come down to little more than "I don't think I'd use it so it shouldn't
be there". If that's the best anyone can come up with then it's a clear
indication that there's no real reason not to include it.
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Matthew Winn
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