Hello Björn,

Got it!

Many thanks for persevering with me.  You, Derek Wyatt and others in  
the vim community are very supportive, and this is much appreciated.

It was something in my ~/.vim directory.   Renaming .vimrc and .gvimrc  
didn't change anything, but as soon as I renamed .vim to my-vim,  
the :help problem went away.  I then renamed my-vim back to .vim, cd- 
ed into .vim, and starting renaming the subdirectories, trying to  
identify the exact problem. I had a directory .vim/doc/  containing  
two files: 'xml-plugin.txt' and 'tags'.   As soon as I renamed  
the .vim/doc/ directory, the whole :help problem went away.

If I mv my-doc back to doc, and rename 'tags', then again the problem  
goes away.  Here's the content of .vim/doc/tags

!_TAG_FILE_ENCODING     utf-8   //
xml-plugin-callbacks    xml-plugin.txt  /*xml-plugin-callbacks*
xml-plugin-html xml-plugin.txt  /*xml-plugin-html*
xml-plugin-mappings     xml-plugin.txt  /*xml-plugin-mappings*
xml-plugin-settings     xml-plugin.txt  /*xml-plugin-settings*

I don't understand it all, to be sure, but it looks like something to  
do with the 'tags' and 'xml-plugin.txt' files that I got somewhere.  I  
can't remember where I got them, or why I placed them in .vim/docs/
I was probably trying to customize (g)vim for better editing of XML  
files.

Thanks again.  You're heros.

Ken






On 13 Apr 2009, at 06:06, björn wrote:

>
> 2009/4/10 Kenneth Reid Beesley:
>>
>> OK.  I was using Snapshot 43.
>> I discarded 43, then downloaded and installed Snapshot 44 and got the
>> same behavior.
>>
>> I then downloaded MacVim-7_2-stable-1_2 and, again, got the same
>> behavior.
>>
>> I'm again wondering if I inadvertently did something in my .vimrc
>> or .gvimrc that is causing the problem.
>
> Starting with "-u NONE" should have excluded the possibility that
> something in your rc-files are interfering but lets try again just to
> be on the safe side.  Rename your rc-files and .vim directory (e.g.
> "mv .vimrc my-vimrc", "mv .vim myvim", etc.) and delete your .viminfo
> file ("rm .viminfo") and clear your MacVim preferences ("defaults
> delete org.vim.MacVim").  Then restart MacVim and see what happens.
>
> Still crashing?  Start "Activity Monitor", locate the crashed Vim
> process in the list (it is called "Vim", but there will be more than
> one if you have two or more windows open in MacVim), select it and
> click the "Sample Process" button.  Copy/paste the text and maybe that
> will give me some clue as to why it is stuck.
>
> Also, as another sanity check try opening a help file manually by
> entering ":fin $VIMRUNTIME/doc/help.txt".  Does that work?
>
> I must admit I am running out of ideas... :/
>
> Ok, one more idea: open the advanced preferences and deselect "Launch
> Vim processes in a login shell".  Quit, reopen MacVim and try ":help"
> again.  Any difference?
>
> Björn
>
> >


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P.O. Box 540475
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