forks:
any conclusions/progress about the discussion?

I just got a new PC and I'd like to try one of the plugin manager way to
start my vim journey on it.
previously I only did that manually in years.



On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Nikolay Pavlov <zyx....@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Mar 27, 2014 7:31 PM, "Marc Weber" <marco-owe...@gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> > Excerpts from Nikolay Pavlov's message of Tue Mar 25 20:32:13 +0000 2014:
> > > With VAM you can ask to update specific plugin only. Action "update all
> > > plugins for which there is a newer version available" is exactly what
> VAM
> > > does if you disallow using VCS sources (otherwise it may switch source
> > > types without notice (or with, I do not actually remember)) (updating
> VCS
> > > sources which were installed manually still works fine).
> > To be honest I don't know either. We haven't defined behaviour.
> > VAM should
> > - run git pull if a plugin directory happens to be a git repository
> > - hg update if its contains a .hg directory
> > and so on.
> >
> > Thus if you turn a .git into a .hg repository :VamUpdate plugin-name
> > should do what you want.
>
> I meant changing non-VCS to VCS, not between VCS. I know that VCS types
> won't be switched.
>
> >
> > But you're right that one final goal could be a to support fixed
> > versions & update sources. The perfect "user experience" would be
> > "choose yourself" which is why the last update I made was that
> > important: It allows passing dictionaries instead of plugin names.
> >
> > Thus Activate(['plugin-name']) can be replaced by
> > Activate([{'name': 'plugin-name', 'force-change-branch-on-update': 1
> 'force-hash': 'xxx345'}])
> >
> > The force-* keys are not supported yet, but are trivial to add and
> document.
> > Thus user would have full control.
> >
> > I think its more important to collaborate on the declaration than on the
> > implementation. And I even failed on a "InstallPlugin" proposal.
> >
> > Thus somebody has to step up and just "win the race" - which doesn't
> > make sense now that neobundle exists unless waiting how that turns out
> > to be ... (my view).
> >
> > Marc Weber
> >
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