So if I understood correctly, external tools won't help me more than Vim
already has ?
Specifically, here <https://pastebin.com/QBJJLYvu> is an example, for some
use case, where I would need a formatter to fix ?
Or another, extreme example <https://pastebin.com/DK0d4460>, or cluttered
code.

Because I always thought of just writing code, in line, and then leaving
editor format the rest, so I don't have to worry about readability .
Of course, that doesn't replace improper usage of indentation or blocks of
code (like, for python it needs to have good indentation to work in the
right way).
But it could help, if it at least helped when I write code inline, for it
to format, as it sees fit. Not changing the meaning of code, just for
readability, how much language allows of course.

First example uses .yaml, and sometimes it can change the meaning of a
file, by indenting it, as you know for .yaml files..


On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 6:53 AM Owajigbanam Ogbuluijah <xigba...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hey Igor,
>
> Formatting in Vim is pretty simple. Vim already understands how to format
> many filetypes. Try not to use too many plugins to complicate things;
> especially if you're not mandated or forced to.
>
> I'll second what Bram, and the others, said here earlier.
>
> You can start by formatting the entire file *gg=G* and checking that into
> Git. Subsequently, when you code, you can format-as-you-go. Remember *=* can
> take motions as well *:help =* has more details.
>
> *p.s: the "motions" bit means you can do something like* *=ip* *to format
> the lines in a code block*
>
> All the best,
> Igbanam
>
> On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 3:54 AM Igor Lerinc <igor.leri...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> But what about plugins like
>>
>> https://github.com/vim-autoformat/vim-autoformat
>>
>> That use some external formatters.
>>
>>
>>
>> I find them slow, because it need to start program when called from Vim.
>> And they say, it means you need to have some type of service running on
>> your system.
>> Like for 'prettier', you need 'prettierd' to not have lag when calling
>> it.
>>
>> But I tried to setup 'prettierd', and got lost.
>>
>> And there is also some efm-langserver , which they say is fastest,
>> because it formats only lines that need to be formatted (if I understood
>> correctly).
>> But I just have no idea what to do with this, how to install it, how to
>> connect it to other external formatters, Vim plugins..
>>
>> https://github.com/mattn/efm-langserver
>>
>>
>> Vim-autoformat have explanation how to setup. But as I said, it takes
>> time to start up program, so it already need to be running, using some sort
>> of something, like efm-langserver ?
>>
>> I don't know really how to do this.
>> I just want to have code more readable.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> sub, 27. maj 2023. 23:22 Bram Moolenaar <b...@moolenaar.net> је
>> написао/ла:
>>
>>>
>>> > I can't wrap my head around Vim autoformat at all.
>>> > I want to have autoformat on save feature.
>>> > I don't want it to have delays, so when i press `:w` it immediatelly
>>> saves
>>> > and formats indentation properly.
>>> >
>>> > I have no idea what is going on in (neo)Vim discussions about this
>>> > autoformating. Looks like those people never coded in their life, and
>>> never
>>> > do any useful thing with their godly configs other than to brag.
>>> >
>>> > Using Vim feature `gg=G` i format and indent whole file.
>>> > This is what I want to have, but discussions related to this are so
>>> > complicated. They just say 'look at my config', but I have no idea,
>>> what is
>>> > that I should look into his config, or just copying his whole config
>>> with a
>>> > lot of bloat.
>>> >
>>> > Please help.
>>>
>>> To get you started:
>>>
>>>         au FileType pascal au BufWritePre <buffer> * normal gg=G
>>>
>>> This will add a BufWritePre autocommand to a buffer where 'filetype' is
>>> set to "pascal".  You probably want to ehance this. E.g. add an augroup,
>>> so you can delete the autocommand again.
>>>
>>> Although this is what you asked for, you probably soon find out that
>>> formatting text only when editing it works better.  Formatting the whole
>>> file may mess things up without you noticing.
>>>
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