hello, On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 05:24:20AM +0000, dvalin via vim_use wrote: > > [3]https://git.unistra.fr/mc/dot/-/blame/main/bin/tsveverything?ref_type=heads#L190 > Now, if vimscript were mostly awk, then we'd have the ultimate editor. :-)
Actually not :) awk is cool but * its built in functions can be called with, user defined functions need parenthesis * ithas no lambdas * its array subscripts and datastructures are really limited * it as no do (like in lisp or perl) * ... The viml of my dream is a mix of Raku (https://raku.org/) and viml itself. the reason I wouldn't use neovim at all is because of the vim commands you can directly use in viml like :1 'a,34d The problem is: Raku is huge. Maybe it's tunable enought to include vim commands as slang (https://docs.raku.org/language/slangs)? IDK but a raku+viml alien + > > not to mention :so now support ranges \o/ would be the ultimate scripting langage (or maybe not: people from the APL world have things to say about concision and readability. https://www.uiua.org/ seems impressive but I have no time to practice). > > Again (because it was the goal of this mail): vim, in its actual > > philosophy, is super important! Thanks a lot for maintaining it. "actual" wasn't the good word: the *current* philosophy. > decades makes life so much easier. (My only remaining wish would be Posix > ERE regexes - the existing mish-mash of alternatives in Vim seems a lot of > work and confusion, without quite getting there. Admittedly, \v comes > close. And one just shells out to awk, when serious, anyway.) Vim needs its own regexp engine because of patterns like |/\%V| \%V \%V inside Visual area |/zero-width| |/\%#| \%# \%# cursor position |/zero-width| |/\%'m| \%'m \%'m mark m position |/zero-width| |/\%l| \%23l \%23l in line 23 |/zero-width| |/\%c| \%23c \%23c in column 23 |/zero-width| |/\%v| \%23v \%23v in virtual column 23 |/zero-width| I made my time to be confortable with it but now I'm really happy about the vim regexp system now (I don't know how huge it is to maintain). I can compare with grep: RE is the default but ERE litteral insensitive grep -E -F -i vim \v \M \c so I have nnoremap / /\v nnoremap ? ?\v because * most of the time, I want \v but sometimes I <del>M * easier to remove \v (to come back to normal) than to type \v to learn the basics of the syntax (when you have previous regexp pexperience): :h perl-patterns :h /magic # the array comparing the syntaxes is very useful :h /ordinary-atom coming from perl and raku, I am sometimes frustrated (mostly because there is no \x (like the //x) so we can write much more maintainable regexps but things like M %% S (list of Ms separated by S) is also really useful) but vim has some gems too like \zs and \ze to start/end the match \%[] : a sequence of optionally matched atoms regards -- Marc Chantreux -- -- You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "vim_use" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/vim_use/aR7PjvlSStF3-I-I%40prometheus.
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