Hey,

I've no idea why it took so many attempts to start up properly. In regard to 
washing the motherboard: I've always known that water and computers do not 
mix-but hey, it seems to have worked!

To solve the "question mark disc" icon, it is relatively simple.

That symbol means the computer cannot find a start up disc, and can mean one of 
two things:

The first, it is missing an operating system (it can't find a Mac OS to boot 
from). If you're lucky it will be this. To solve this problem look on ebay or 
somewhere on the net for a set of Mac OS 7.6.1 install floppy disks. Start up 
the computer and insert one of the floppy disks. Follow the instructions and 
install Mac OS 7.6.1

The second is that the hard drive may have settled or died. Try leaving the 
computer turned on overnight, then turn it off and start up. If this doesn't 
work, you probably have a dodgy hard drive. This one is more hassle: it is a 40 
or 80 MB SCSI disc-and they are relatively hard to come buy. If you come across 
one, you will need to take out the old hard drive and install a copy of Mac OS 
7.6.1.

Sincerely,
Art.

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Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2008 4:50 AM
To: Vintage Macs
Subject: Classic II Startup Problems.....a little long

Hiya All,

First post here.  You all need to know that I am a computer/Classic II
newbie in the most basic sense.  I just barely know what a motherboard
is and if we get ANY deeper into technospeak than that, I'm lost.

Basically, I have a Mac Classic II that I'd like to get up and running
again.

A little context/history for you...........  This computer was put
into storage (clean, warm and dry environment) 10 years ago.  I pulled
it out of storage last week.  I plugged it in and flipped the on/off
switch to on.  Nothing.  No screen response, but it did emit a
whirring sound which I'm guessing was the fan.  After about five
minutes I flipped it off, then on again.  I did that two more times
and on the fourth try the screen produced a checkerboard pattern.  I
tried again and got a blank screen with a cursor.  One more time and I
got the desktop.

Over the course of the next few days I was able to get the desktop
another four or five times by following the routine above.  The next
time I tried, the screen went from the cursor/blank screen to the
question mark disc icon.

I had read (somewhere) that dirt and leaking capacitors (whatever they
might be) can be a problem and that the way to cure those problems
(the checkerboard screen apparently being one of those problems) is to
wash the motherboard.  That I did.

And now....I reinstalled the now clean and shiny motherboard.  Before
that I blew out all the remaining dust with some canned air.  The
insides are now quite clean.  After installing the motherboard when I
flip the on/off switch to on I get an almost instant blank screen with
cursor.  That seems like a big improvement.  However, it is still
going to the question mark disc icon.

Anybody have any suggestions on how I might I get this little guy to
get back on the proper track to his desktop?


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