Hey...nothing wrong with old...helps you know things us slightly younger folks don't! And then we know things those younger than us don't...good to pass that knowledge along... Neat history there on those odd drives, thanks for sharing. If it sounded terrible then, perhaps what I heard is normal. :-) It has 1Mb per the "about finder" section. I don't yet have a screwdriver to break it open to look inside. I fired it up fine on a 6.0.8 boot floppy. PRAM battery is missing (probably good or it might have ruined something by now). Someone elsewhere suggested the SCSI problem was either parity or hardware handshaking or something...tried a 40Mb from an LC and it started up just fine...or at least to the point where it said it didn't have enough RAM to continue. :-) Thanks, Wesley
_____ From: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com [mailto:vintage-macs@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Kronquist Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 10:58 PM To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac Plus Plethora of Problems Okay. I am old. Almost 50. Phasers were sold by macfriends in PDX at the time largest unauthorized apple dealer on earth. Pc 720k drive with fake iwm or was it swim. Sounded like shit. Worked fine 199 vs 329 corporate 499 retail for apple 800k. We bot hundreds. What is ram state on plus? If resistor clipped 2 2.5 4 mb ram is it shorting out? Ie shifted back and touching If scanty ram Mac try 5,1. X thru Mac is no readable os. 6.0.8 May not load into 1mb ram. Thus x Assume you have proper finder Not loading too many fonts or da s with font da mover Didn't ResEdit Have 50k space of fd to write to Assume pram batt bad Also try 400k os disk incase second read write head bad Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Wesley Furr <wes...@megley.com> wrote: I recently acquired a Mac Plus from an old friend...it was her parent's and I gather was used for many years. Unfortunately, looks like it got stored in the basement or something and has acquired a bit of mildew...but just sitting around problem is half of its problems...where shall I begin... The external Lacie hard drive (with a Quantum Prodrive ELS) is dead. I whacked on it (and may have killed it) trying to get it going...ultimately pulled the cover and tried the head move trick...it will seek back and forth a few times, then spin down anyway. I've written that part off... I used an LCII to create a System 6.0.8 boot disk and it booted up just fine. Once. Now it spins, heads seek, then it stops spinning. Pauses, spins, seeks, then stops again...disk icon on the screen goes to an X when it stops, then normal looking as it tries again, wash, rinse, repeat. Could this be as simple as needing a head cleaning? The disk still works fine in the LCII. I also plugged in an external Apple 3.5 disk drive and it boots fine on that as well. Any other maintenance that might need to be done on the drive? I don't yet have the special screwdriver to get the case open either... I'm guessing the heads are clean since it did boot once ok...? Anyone ever heard of a Phaser 800 floppy drive, made by Warp Nine Technology? Gotta love the name regardless. <http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif> It came with the Mac...seek sounds very noisy and it won't boot from that drive either. Struggling to figure out how to get the thing to come apart...I think I may have slide it forward, pull the drive bezel off, then slide it out the back....? And lastly...I can't get it to recognize an external hard drive...one that works fine on the LCII. First tried an ADTX drive, which uses an IDE to SCSI adapter with a 2.5" IDE drive...system 7.5, nothing. Tried a generic Seagate Cheetah (I think - maybe Barracuda) in an external case with 7.5...nothing. I have a SCSI to IDE adapter which then goes to Compactflash, again, nothing...all of these boot fine on the LCII. Finally put in a fresh 256mb CF card and loaded 6.0.8 onto it via the LCII, no dice. Booted the Plus and tried to get it to see the drive with a patched HD SC Setup and it does not see the drive. Do I just need a really old SCSI drive to work with this thing or something? Any other ideas or common problems I should be looking out for? 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