Thanks for the suggestions.  I've had no luck with
these drives.  The patched drive setup does not see
the drives.  They don't even appear in the listing to
be formated.  I've tried to format them using a
Performa 636 (as well as a 6200) that boots from an
external scsi hard drive.  The external drive has ID
0.  Would that make a difference?  Both drives start
to spin up when I boot the system then die out.  Is
there anything else I can try?

John

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