There are three stock large-diameter pedestals (not
counting the multion-function casting on an F.I.
motor). Commonly called "12V" but there was a
large-diameter 6V made too that requires the "12V"
pedestal, strap, pulley and sheetmetal.
The letter at the end of the casting number is "B" for
the one used on singleports, "E" for the dualport
(it's got a chamfer on the bottom to clear the DP
intake manifold) and "G" for an alternator. You can
use a G in place of an E or B, and you can use an E in
place of a B - but it's a one-way interchange. Since
we only got carbureted alternator engines in the US
market for `74 and part of `73 the OEM pedestals are a
little hard to come by, but Chiwanese counterfeits are
readily available. I've noticed on the last couple new
Bosch alternators I've installed that there are two
ribs in the casting on the bottom that prevent it from
settling down properly in the saddle of the pedestal -
they need to be trimmed slightly shorter (file or
grind).
Alternators and all of the large-diameter generators
with the exception of the 38A one use the same strap,
fan hub, and three pieces of sheetmetal. There have
been different styles of pulley but they had the same
offset so the 043 903 109 fits any of them (except the
38A). As I mentioned before, the 38A needs a special
pulley. It has a unique fan hub & spacer setup and the
two larger pieces of tin are "dished" - it does take
the same strap and small tin ring as the others. It's
recommended that you use the wider 11.3x912La belt
with an alternator since the 9.5x905La may slip under
the added load. And be sure that there are at least 8
pulley shims total, else you risk the nut running out
of threads before the pulley halves are firmly clamped
together - the most common cause of pulley
destruction.
Since alternators don't have a large mass of magnetic
material in them like a generator, they need an
external source of power for the "field flash" that
gets them started charging. Without that (provided 
from the ignition switch via the warning lamp
filament) and alternator that's been idle for even a
few days may not put out until the engine is buzzed to
a high RPM, if then (not attainable by bump-starting).
Generators can sit idle for many months before they
lose all of their residual magnetism - at which point
they require polarization - so even with NO battery in
the car it's possible to bump-start a
generator-equipped car, but you still have to get the
thing above the "cut-out" speed of the regulator
(approximately 760 engine RPM) so you'll need a steep
hill or a push vehicle...or maybe an Olympic bobsled
team.
So, with no battery it's all but impossible to start
an alternator-equipped car - just as well, because if
you run an alternator with no battery in the circuit
to provide a voltage reference there's a very real
danger of it "running away" and putting out enough
voltage to damage electrical components in the car (if
it doesn't fry itself first).
But as Glen points out, if there's enough juice in the
battery to supply the coil (the warning lights are
fairly bright when you turn the key to "on") you can
bump-start either...if the lights are dim, there may
still be enough to flash the alternator so in that
case the alternator-equipped car could be slightly
EASIER to start, since the alternator starts charging
at a lower engine RPM.
For the ultimate in vintage appearance you could use a
small-diameter 12V generator from a 356 - but they're
spendy and don't put out as much as a stock Bug unit.
I don't recommend mounting the regulator to the fan
shroud just because there seems to be a higher rate of
failure when you do (fan vibration?). You could mount
it on the firewall, tucked up in the far LH corner
where it's not obtrusive. Mounting it under the back
set is best, but that requires additional wiring and
isn't very practical on an early body with the main
harness running through the roof.


--- Sharkey's Garage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> An alternator stand features a notch designed to
> allow the larger diameter
> of the alternator to clear properly, and it will
> accept a generator.  An OEM
> generator stand will NOT accept an alternator.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of GARRETT FELL
> Sent: March 2, 2007 10:57 AM
> To: Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Alternator / Generator
> conversion in an early car
> 
> Getting back to the subject of generators -vs-
> alternators.   Is everything
> the same between a generator and alternator
> installation except for the
> "stand" it sits on?  I guess that'd just be the
> backing plates that would be
> left?  Are the stands different shaped?  I've seen
> references to
> "generator/alternator" stands which suggests they
> are the same, but then
> again I've seen references to one or the other....



 
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