That's another one of the generator's redeeming qualities, right?   The 
bump-start with a mostly dead battery?   

Getting back to the subject of generators -vs- alternators.   Is everything the 
same between a generator and alternator installation except for the "stand" it 
sits on?  I guess that'd just be the backing plates that would be left?  Are 
the stands different shaped?  I've seen references to "generator/alternator" 
stands which suggests they are the same, but then again I've seen references to 
one or the other....

Still haven't competely decided what to do here.  I'd like to try to keep the 
engine compartment as "clean" as possible, so mounting the regulator in a 
visible place makes me frown.  Anyone ever found room for a volatage regulator 
on the back of a doghouse fan-shroud?   Trying to picture one in my 
mind........hmmmmmmm  Maybe towards the top?

If all else fails one of the internally-regulated alternators would just 
plug-right-in.....(but it'd be big and fat and less pleasing to my eyes).


-Garrett



----- Original Message ----
From: marc vellat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2007 10:52:49 AM
Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Alternator / Generator conversion in an early car


I suppose it's more embarrassing than humorous, but I
was deep in the woods without a spare fanbelt and a
high-compression engine that never would've made it
the eight miles back to civilization without some
cooling. November `84, took my wife and 1-year-old
daughter up to Snoqualmie national Forest to cut our
own Christmas tree. Flat-towed a P.O.S. `69 bug into
which I'd slapped a spare race engine up to the Ranger
station, bought our tree tag and headed out. Of COURSE
I went to the "4WD VEHICLES ONLY" area, figuring on
finding more trees to choose from there - and all the
way in we kept meeting Jeeps packing out some lovely
trees. What we found was a lot of 30 to 50 foot trees
that had been felled just to take the tops off
(strictly verboten, but the classless 4-wheelers
obviously didn't care). I looked for virgin trails and
found one winding up a hillside but we came around a
turn and found it blocked by a fallen tree. At this
point the "road" was less than 15 feet wide (between
the mountain side and the cliff side, as Arlo Guthrie
would say) and it took a fair amount of jockeying to
turn the car around, during which the rapidly-revving
engine (~300° cam and lightened flywheel) tossed its
belt...that now resembles a Möbius strip, so it's not
going back on. No big deal, says I, I'd grabbed the
emergency parts/tools from the trunk of my wife's
Squareback before we left town...
Yes, I spaced out and didn't think of the difference
in belt length between a Type I and a III.
Y'know those black rubber bands used to keep tire
chains snug? I had several of THOSE along, and they'll
actually work as a fanbelt provided you keep the RPM
low and don't let it change rapidly (as if THAT were
possible with the engine I had on those trails). I had
to keep stopping to put the bands back on, took eight
tries to make it half a mile and it was threatening to
get dark soon. We had survival gear and food & water,
but spending the night cooped up in a bug with a baby
was NOT in the plan. So we unpacked the rear to access
the voltage regulator under the seat, and I connected
D+ to B+ and DF to ground, tossed everything back in
and made it down the mountain just as it was getting
too dark to see without headlights. By now the battery
was getting pretty weak - we MIGHT have made it the
few more miles of paved road to the Ranger station but
had to stop for a multi-car accident and of course the
car wouldn't restart. I went from car to car looking
for someone with jumper cables who'd be willing to put
a little charge back in my battery. One guy happened
to have a PILE of fan belts in the back of his Chev
pickup - I never asked why, but was delighted to find
one that looked VW-sized. It fit, I restored the
generator wiring to stock and bump-started the car and
the adventure was behind us. 
Bought a tree at the Boy Scout lot on the way home and
kept that dayglo-orange USFS tree-tag hanging from my
mirror for a couple of years as a reminder to prepare
THOROUGHLY before going off into the boonies.

--- Sharkey's Garage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As for Marc's "amusing anecdote", I'm sure that I'm
> not the only one here
> that's a little curious to hear it.  As others have
> pointed out, list
> traffic is down anyway... ;)




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