Eric, it does not sound like you are rejecting the idea, but, I would say that this made a massive difference to stability of Voice Over for me, I used to have stammering synths and stalls quite often, by clearing my App switcher up to three times daily, but, always without fail twice, and always restarting the phone following the second app switcher clearing at the night time, this made a huge difference to Voice Over performance.
remember, your iPhone is a computer, and computers need this maintenance frequently. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 12:36, Eric SS wrote: Hi Neil. I keep my speech rate at 65% most often, but I will very that from 60 to 75%. Anything slower seems torturous. I do go into the application switcher and clear it before I am going to do a lot of reading. That has not seemed to make a difference, however. The one area I am lax is I do not restart my phone every day, not even every several days. But, I have not found that that will make a difference. I hope it does not sound as though I am rejecting all alternatives. I have just tried so many, and none of them have been successful. It is most maddening because the problem is intermittent. All thanks! E Telephone: (614) 522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On May 8, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <for...@talknav.com> wrote: Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's blessings, too,. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea <veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com> wrote: > Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the > Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. > > Veronica > > At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >> calendar still. >> >> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >> up issue, either. We can only hope! >> >> >> >> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >> Skype: sseric57 >> >> >> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >> app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >> not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >> >> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >> >>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>> error >> every time >>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >>> of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per >>> say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>> >>> Hi Jenifer and all, >>> >>> Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the >>> update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will >>> be included. >>> There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the >>> past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the >>> update What's New summary. >>> >>> Best, >>> Anna >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: >>> >>>> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo >>>> stream, >>> airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has >>> to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >>>> Jenifer Gilley >>>> email >>>> claudas...@gmail.com >>>> MSN: >>>> claudas...@cox.net >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Cristobal >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM >>>> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>>> >>>> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads >>>> for those >>> who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that >>> didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash >>> it the >> first time >>> I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I >>> don't know if there's anything accessibility related. 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