lol,

you hit the nail on the head.  What is an iPhone but an iPod touch with a 
cellular radio. :)

Ricardo Walker
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On Jun 3, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You say Apple would never give the iPod Touch the ability to access
> cellular networks because then it would impact iPhone sales too much,
> but I'm thinking, if you add cellular network access to an iPod Touch
> then how is it different than an iPhone? I'm thinking they may never do
> this just because there's no need to do it. Of course, maybe I'm missing
> something here, which is quite possible.
> 
> On 03/06/12 10:31, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>> I got an IPod touch  a couple years ago, when version 4 came out, after
>> Mike Arigo did those podcasts on BlindCoolTech.  I came away from the
>> experience quite confident that I could learn to use it, but took it
>> back within my return period because I couldn't get online with it,
>> except with wifi, which meant, for me, at home,  being that I do not
>> have access to a wifi network at work, and otherwise would have to go to
>> some public hot spot to get online.  My Victor Reader Stream would play
>> all the audio file types it would play, and then some, and I didn't care
>> about the video files.  I definitely would have kept it if I could have
>> accessed the cellular network with it, as the IPad can now.  I am almost
>> sure Apple will never give the IPod Touch this capability, it would
>> diminish IPhone and IPad sales too much.
>> 
>> I have checked into how much data costs for the IPad, and it seems to be
>> about $50 for 5 gig.  At that rate, I may as well get the IPhone, and be
>> able to have the phone, and the gps capability without having to use an
>> external gps receiver.
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul A. Gallegos"
>> <r...@raulgallegos.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions
>> 
>> 
>>> Sounds like you might benefit by getting an iPod touch
>>> 
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>>> On 6/3/2012 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>>>> Being that I have no family, I would have to get it as an
>>>> individual.When including the data plan, the cheapest I have found is a
>>>> little over $80 a month from Sprint, and would be the 450 minute plan.
>>>> Right now, I use a prepaid cell phone, and my wired phone. My prepaid
>>>> cell phone is 20 cents a minute, which is a bad deal if one talks much,
>>>> but for what I do with it, it costs about $10 a month. I qualify for
>>>> lifeline, so my wired phone is $20 a month. I would not be getting the
>>>> IPhone so much for the phone, I do not spend a lot of time on a
>>>> telephone any more, but for the texting, the apps, email and the web,
>>>> and streaming music and radio. Naturally, I would discontinue both my
>>>> current phones if I get the IPhone, which would make its real cost to me
>>>> between 50 to 60 dollars a month. We'll see what I eventually do.
>>>> 
>>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain"
>>>> <chalt...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 6:44 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't think an iPhone costs $100 a month, and it definitely doesn't
>>>>> cost $100 a month more than other cell phones. I'm on a family plan, so
>>>>> I can't toss numbers off the top of my head, but I'd suggest checking
>>>>> different plan options with your carrier.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 03/06/12 05:30, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>> I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only
>>>>>> hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one
>>>>>> greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason
>>>>>> that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that
>>>>>> hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the
>>>>>> phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would
>>>>>> probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to
>>>>>> me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One thing that has me excited again about getting one is the book,
>>>>>> published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the
>>>>>> iPhone and
>>>>>> iOs5 for Blind Users, by
>>>>>> Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am
>>>>>> reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According
>>>>>> to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have
>>>>>> ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one
>>>>>> has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it
>>>>>> very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to
>>>>>> do this typing, it can be set up independently.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The link to the aforementioned book is
>>>>>> http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html
>>>>>> It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a
>>>>>> daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> one.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Ilniski"
>>>>>> <rilni...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM
>>>>>> Subject: new to the group and some questions
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to
>>>>>>> be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them
>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>> 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on
>>>>>>> Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the
>>>>>>> apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will
>>>>>>> be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting
>>>>>>> your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours
>>>>>>> online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell
>>>>>>> provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the
>>>>>>> store to get help?
>>>>>>> 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone?
>>>>>>> 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good
>>>>>>> resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen?
>>>>>>> 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of
>>>>>>> movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls,
>>>>>>> facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't
>>>>>>> plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that.
>>>>>>> When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any
>>>>>>> wifi connections available especially if i"m on a bus or something?
>>>>>>> Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more
>>>>>>> as I go along.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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