I suspect that the actual phone capability, once you have cellular network access, is pretty trivial, so you'd end up with a device that pretty much looks like the iPhone without the phone app and costs about the same. Like I said, I don't think there would be much of a market for Apple to market such a device. Of course, I'm not a developer and I'm not in marketing.
On 03/06/12 17:45, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > It is a device much smaller than an IPad, that will fit into my pocket, > but would not cause me to pay for the phone capability.If I had access > to the cellular network for data, I could make the occasional phone call > with it via skype, and access the web and email, too. > > Arnold Schmidt > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker...@gmail.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:53 PM > Subject: Re: Data plans [was "Re: new to the group and some questions"] > > >> lol, >> >> you hit the nail on the head. What is an iPhone but an iPod touch >> with a cellular radio. :) >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Jun 3, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> You say Apple would never give the iPod Touch the ability to access >>> cellular networks because then it would impact iPhone sales too much, >>> but I'm thinking, if you add cellular network access to an iPod Touch >>> then how is it different than an iPhone? I'm thinking they may never do >>> this just because there's no need to do it. Of course, maybe I'm missing >>> something here, which is quite possible. >>> >>> On 03/06/12 10:31, Arnold Schmidt wrote: >>>> I got an IPod touch a couple years ago, when version 4 came out, after >>>> Mike Arigo did those podcasts on BlindCoolTech. I came away from the >>>> experience quite confident that I could learn to use it, but took it >>>> back within my return period because I couldn't get online with it, >>>> except with wifi, which meant, for me, at home, being that I do not >>>> have access to a wifi network at work, and otherwise would have to >>>> go to >>>> some public hot spot to get online. My Victor Reader Stream would play >>>> all the audio file types it would play, and then some, and I didn't >>>> care >>>> about the video files. I definitely would have kept it if I could have >>>> accessed the cellular network with it, as the IPad can now. I am >>>> almost >>>> sure Apple will never give the IPod Touch this capability, it would >>>> diminish IPhone and IPad sales too much. >>>> >>>> I have checked into how much data costs for the IPad, and it seems >>>> to be >>>> about $50 for 5 gig. At that rate, I may as well get the IPhone, >>>> and be >>>> able to have the phone, and the gps capability without having to use an >>>> external gps receiver. >>>> >>>> Arnold Schmidt >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul A. Gallegos" >>>> <r...@raulgallegos.com> >>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:29 AM >>>> Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sounds like you might benefit by getting an iPod touch >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Raul A. Gallegos >>>>> Stupidity got me into this mess - I don't see why it can't get me out. >>>>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com >>>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 >>>>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 >>>>> >>>>> On 6/3/2012 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: >>>>>> Being that I have no family, I would have to get it as an >>>>>> individual.When including the data plan, the cheapest I have found >>>>>> is a >>>>>> little over $80 a month from Sprint, and would be the 450 minute >>>>>> plan. >>>>>> Right now, I use a prepaid cell phone, and my wired phone. My prepaid >>>>>> cell phone is 20 cents a minute, which is a bad deal if one talks >>>>>> much, >>>>>> but for what I do with it, it costs about $10 a month. I qualify for >>>>>> lifeline, so my wired phone is $20 a month. I would not be getting >>>>>> the >>>>>> IPhone so much for the phone, I do not spend a lot of time on a >>>>>> telephone any more, but for the texting, the apps, email and the web, >>>>>> and streaming music and radio. Naturally, I would discontinue both my >>>>>> current phones if I get the IPhone, which would make its real cost >>>>>> to me >>>>>> between 50 to 60 dollars a month. We'll see what I eventually do. >>>>>> >>>>>> Arnold Schmidt >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain" >>>>>> <chalt...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 6:44 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't think an iPhone costs $100 a month, and it definitely >>>>>>> doesn't >>>>>>> cost $100 a month more than other cell phones. I'm on a family >>>>>>> plan, so >>>>>>> I can't toss numbers off the top of my head, but I'd suggest >>>>>>> checking >>>>>>> different plan options with your carrier. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 03/06/12 05:30, Arnold Schmidt wrote: >>>>>>>> I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only >>>>>>>> hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of >>>>>>>> getting one >>>>>>>> greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same >>>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>> that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the >>>>>>>> phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would >>>>>>>> probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to >>>>>>>> me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One thing that has me excited again about getting one is the book, >>>>>>>> published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the >>>>>>>> iPhone and >>>>>>>> iOs5 for Blind Users, by >>>>>>>> Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, >>>>>>>> and am >>>>>>>> reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. >>>>>>>> According >>>>>>>> to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as >>>>>>>> they have >>>>>>>> ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things >>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>> has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type >>>>>>>> on it >>>>>>>> very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels >>>>>>>> confident to >>>>>>>> do this typing, it can be set up independently. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The link to the aforementioned book is >>>>>>>> http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html >>>>>>>> It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or >>>>>>>> as a >>>>>>>> daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know >>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>> one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Arnold Schmidt >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Ilniski" >>>>>>>> <rilni...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: new to the group and some questions >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to >>>>>>>>> be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them >>>>>>>>> here. >>>>>>>>> 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering >>>>>>>>> that on >>>>>>>>> Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the >>>>>>>>> apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>> be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like >>>>>>>>> porting >>>>>>>>> your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order >>>>>>>>> yours >>>>>>>>> online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your >>>>>>>>> cell >>>>>>>>> provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go >>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>> store to get help? >>>>>>>>> 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? >>>>>>>>> 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good >>>>>>>>> resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? >>>>>>>>> 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a >>>>>>>>> lot of >>>>>>>>> movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, >>>>>>>>> facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't >>>>>>>>> plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use >>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>> When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any >>>>>>>>> wifi connections available especially if i"m on a bus or >>>>>>>>> something? >>>>>>>>> Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have >>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> as I go along. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Rebecca and Zeb >>>>>>>>> email: rilni...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 >>>>>>>>> Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> "VIPhone" >>>>>>>>> Google Group. >>>>>>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Christopher (CJ) >>>>>>> chaltain at Gmail >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>> "VIPhone" >>>>>>> Google Group. >>>>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>> Google Group. >>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher (CJ) >>> chaltain at Gmail >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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