I doubt though that passengers bringing their iPhone or iPad abord will pose 
any risk.  I would be more afraid of my fellow passengers who would be a 
greater risk with their screaming brats.


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From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 8:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Any Issues Boarding A Flight with the External Battery Pack

Here's an actual article from PBS News Hour discussing this issue at this link:



http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2-airlines-ban-rechargeable-batteries-cargo/



I'll post the text of the article after my signature.



Alan Lemly



Two airlines ban rechargeable batteries from cargo
WASHINGTON — Two major U.S airlines say they will no longer accept rechargeable 
battery shipments as new government tests confirm that explosions and violent 
fires are likely to occur when large numbers of batteries enclosed in cargo 
containers overheat.

Tests conducted last month by the Federal Aviation Administration show that 
rechargeable batteries, also called lithium-ion batteries, consistently emit 
explosive gases when they overheat or short-circuit, The Associated Press has 
learned. In the recent tests, as well as other FAA tests last year, the buildup 
of gases — primarily hydrogen — led to fierce explosions.

An FAA video of one of the tests obtained by the AP shows an explosion knocking 
a cargo container door off its hinges and tossing boxes of batteries into the 
air. The container was engulfed in fire minutes later.

In the test, a cartridge heater was used to simulate a single battery 
overheating. The heater caused nearby batteries to overheat and the 
short-circuiting spread to many of the nearly 5,000 batteries in the container. 
It’s common for tens of thousands of batteries to be placed in a single 
container.

Citing safety concerns, United Airlines on Monday informed its cargo customers 
it will no longer accept bulk shipments of the batteries, which are used to 
power everything from smartphones to laptops to power tools.

Delta Air Lines quietly stopped accepting bulk shipments of the rechargeable 
batteries on Feb. 1. The airline said in a statement that it took the action in 
response to government testing and concerns raised by its pilots and flight 
attendants.

A third major U.S. carrier, American Airlines, stopped accepting some types of 
lithium-ion battery shipments on Feb. 23. But the airline is continuing to 
accept small packages of batteries grouped together or “overpacked” into a 
single cargo container. Those are the kinds of shipments that the FAA has been 
testing and that are a greater safety concern.

All three airlines said they will continue to accept bulk shipments of 
equipment containing batteries or in which batteries are placed in the same 
package as equipment. Placing batteries inside equipment like laptops or in the 
same package as power tools creates additional buffering and is believed to 
provide added protection, although safety experts say that theory hasn’t been 
fully tested.

The decisions by United and Delta airlines could put pressure on other 
international carriers to refuse battery shipments or appear indifferent to 
safety.

“I think it will cause everybody to take a look at their policies and 
procedures as far as carrying that cargo, and many will elect not to,” said 
John Goglia, a former National Transportation Safety Board member and aviation 
safety expert.

Airline industry analyst Robert W. Mann said, “It’s only a matter of time 
before a really serious event occurs.”

Airlines “are essentially just trying to avoid that occurrence,” he said.

Temperatures in some of the government testing reached nearly 1,100 degrees. An 
airliner might be able to withstand a fire generated by a small number of 
lithium-ion batteries, but a fire involving lots of them could destroy the 
plane, according to a slide presentation by Airbus engineer Paul Rohrbach. The 
presentation was an industry position reflecting the views of other aircraft 
manufacturers as well as Airbus, according to the company.

U.S. and international officials have been slow to adopt safety restrictions 
that might affect the powerful industries that depend on the batteries. About 
4.8 billion lithium-ion cells were manufactured in 2013, and production is 
forecast to reach 8 billion a year by 2025. A battery contains two or more 
cells.

Lithium batteries dominate the global battery industry because they’re cheap to 
make, lightweight and can hold a lot more energy than other types of batteries.

Cargo airlines are continuing to transport the batteries even though they are 
believed to have either caused or contributed to fires that destroyed two 
Boeing 747 freighters in recent years, killing their pilots. The pilots of a 
third freighter managed to escape after landing in Philadelphia, but that plane 
was also destroyed.

UPS recently completed a round of tests on a shipping container that was 
adjusted to allow gases to escape while continuing to contain a battery fire. 
The company was encouraged by the results of the tests, said UPS spokesman Mike 
Mangeot.

U.S. regulators’ hands are tied by a 2012 law that Congress enacted in response 
to industry lobbying. It prohibits the government from issuing regulations 
regarding battery shipments that are any more stringent than standards approved 
by the International Civil Aviation Organization, a U.N. agency, unless an 
international investigative agency can show the batteries ignited a fire that 
destroyed an aircraft. That’s difficult, since in the three cases thus far in 
which batteries are suspected of causing fires, the planes were too damaged to 
determine the source of the blaze.





-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
SSEric
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any Issues Boarding A Flight with the External Battery Pack



I understood that to mean shipping batteries in quantity, not the individual 
having one. I think the issue is in the cargo area, which is not pressurized.



I could be mistaken…



Eric







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