Hi all. Yes, I have also noticed this with the Apex. However, it also seems to be occuring with the Refreshabraille and other displays from time to time, though not as frequently as it is happening with HW's stuff. I suspect it's a conflict between the braille Appple driver and several displays, for whatever reason, it is impacting HW more than the others. As for the question about the VarioUltra, it is a fairly stable connection relative to the other displays, but still locks up from time to time. However, the battery life, at least on the 20-cell model, is not what you get out of most displays. For example, with a day worth of average use by me, I get 2 days of use out of the Refreshabraille and about 3/4 of a day out of the VarioUltra. IN the middle, unless you're talking about prices, the u2 Mini I was able to get through a full day with some battery life. I have not played with the Focus enough to really comment on battery life. However, what I can say about the Focus is that, the 14 in particular, is very fragile. Of all the displays and people I've worked with, it has gone back for repair more than any other. The eight-dot full cell at the beginning and end of the display is not a display specific thing, it's the way VoiceOver has been instructed to do things in iOS 8 and later. I guess the folks at Apple put this "feature" in there to address the issue people were complaining about where they could not track their braille typing before it was fed through the translator. However, even when you set both input and output of braille to uncontracted, the stupid full cell is still there. This is a huge concern for people like myself who rely on others to type with bluetooth keyboards in very loud situations to communicate with people around me. The full cell even appears when a bluetooth keyboard user is typing. It really slows down the communication process.
Scott On 4/7/15, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> wrote: > Hi. I suspect it's more of a software issue, not a hardware one. So I would > suggest you trying before buying. > > Raul A. Gallegos > Voice/Text: 832.554.7285 > >> On Apr 6, 2015, at 11:59 PM, Gmail <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I also have a Braolliant BI 32, and I experience the freezing as well. Do >> you think if I got the Boum Vario Ultra that I would experience the same >> freezing issues? I know that from your message, these issues seem to >> happen most often with HumanWare displays, but I believe that HumanWare >> gets there hardware from Boum. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Ari >> >> >>> On Apr 6, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I can say for certain that as a trainer I have seen this problem happened >>> with the humanware displays. The local representative from humanware over >>> here in Texas is completely blaming apple. For my own personal experience >>> and from what I have seen I believe that it is a humanware problem >>> because this problem does not happen with other displays. Many traces the >>> display will lock up almost immediately when you start typing in an edit >>> feel like I messages are editing apps. >>> >>> Raul A. Gallegos >>> Voice/Text: 832.554.7285 >>> >>>> On Apr 6, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I too am experiencing the Braille display hanging when trying to write >>>> in Voice Dream Writer and in AccessNote. There are some apps that I >>>> can write in with no problem, such as when writing an iMessage, but >>>> anytime I try to write in most apps my Focus 14 Blue display shows the >>>> for signs on either end and hangs. Hopefully the promises of fixes in >>>> 8.3 will take care of these annoyances. As it is, writing on the >>>> Braille display is far from enjoyable. For the record, I have >>>> automatic translation turned on and am using an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.2. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Wayne >>>> >>>>> On 4/6/15, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi Anna. >>>>> Unfortunatley, this does not always solve the probem, as turning >>>>> automatic braille translation on was the first thing I did when >>>>> installing 8. Especially when someone is typing on a bluetooth >>>>> keyboard, the 8-dot full cell appears at each end of the display >>>>> instead of tracking the text like it used to. Also, as others have >>>>> reported, input is rather sluggish, particularly on devices older than >>>>> the iPhone 6/6+. Also, the full cell still presents itself when in >>>>> uncontracted 6-dot or 8-dot computer braille. What's even worse is >>>>> this is also happening on Yosemite now also. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>>>>> On 4/6/15, Joe Quinn <jdawg1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> The state of quicknav on my braille display is irrelevant. Either way, >>>>>> it >>>>>> still does it letter thing, and doesn't go to the reading winjow in >>>>>> bard >>>>>> mobile. >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2015, at 6:34 AM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The problem is that Quick Nav is on by default. That causes this >>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>> You need to turn Quick Nav off. in iOS 8.2, the only way to do that >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> press the left and right arrow keys together on a Bluetooth >>>>>>> keyboard. >>>>>>> Fortunately, in iOS 8.3, you'll also be able to do it by pressing >>>>>>> Space >>>>>>> with Q on a braille display. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Anna >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2015, at 1:05 AM, Joe Quinn <jdawg1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not sure that having automatic braille translation on or off >>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>> solve my issue. What the issue is, is when I'm in the now reading >>>>>>>> tab >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> have a braille file loaded, and I press r to get to the reading >>>>>>>> window, >>>>>>>> it actually enters an r, as if it's in a document. And it used to >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>> that, it used to go directly to the reading window. Therefore, I >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> never get back to the place that I was at, because I have to >>>>>>>> actually >>>>>>>> dot >>>>>>>> 4-chord to the Reading window, thereby having to start all the way >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> beginning. This is the same for and, next, and P, previous buttons. >>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>> enters the actual letters, and I don't know how to fix that, unless >>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>> update to the Bard mobile app is in order. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2015, at 12:47 AM, Woody Anna Dresner >>>>>>>>> <wadres...@att.net> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Automatic braille translation doesn't conflict with BARD if you >>>>>>>>> switch >>>>>>>>> braille input to 8-dot while you're using the app. This is a good >>>>>>>>> idea >>>>>>>>> anyway, since then each letter you type is seen as a letter rather >>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>> a word. The only problem is that Quick Nav is on by default, and >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> iOS >>>>>>>>> 8.2, you need a Bluetooth keyboard to turn off Quick Nav. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>>>> Anna >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Joe Quinn <jdawg1...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But automatic Braille translation messes with the BARD navigation >>>>>>>>>> keys, >>>>>>>>>> especially when reading a .brf file, as it thinks you're trying >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> write a word. Is there anyway around this? I want my navigation >>>>>>>>>> commands back. :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 11:25 PM, Woody Anna Dresner >>>>>>>>>>> <wadres...@att.net> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alan, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like your friend has automatic braille translation >>>>>>>>>>> turned >>>>>>>>>>> off. When she starts typing a word, it goes into a buffer, as >>>>>>>>>>> indicated by the full braille cells at either end of the >>>>>>>>>>> display. >>>>>>>>>>> When >>>>>>>>>>> she presses Space or dots 4-5-chord, the word will be entered >>>>>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> text, and the full braille cells will disappear. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Another option is to turn off automatic braille translation. >>>>>>>>>>> Then >>>>>>>>>>> text >>>>>>>>>>> is translated automatically a couple of seconds after you type >>>>>>>>>>> it, >>>>>>>>>>> regardless of whether you've pressed Space or dots 4-5-chord. >>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>> problem with that is that if you stop in the middle of a word to >>>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>> about something, the part that you've already typed gets >>>>>>>>>>> back-translated, which can cause problems. For that reason, I >>>>>>>>>>> leave >>>>>>>>>>> automatic braille translation turned off. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>>>>>> Anna >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 11:09 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have another question for my friend running iOS 8.2 on an >>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> 6. >>>>>>>>>>>> Are there new commands to operate a braille display when >>>>>>>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>>>> iOS8.2? Hers locks up as soon as she begins to enter text, >>>>>>>>>>>> showing >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> full cell at either end of the braille display. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Lemly >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>>>>>>>>>>> viphone >>>>>>>>>>>> list. 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