Hello,Mark and everyone.

With the font text size slider set to 50% and "Reduce Motion" set to
"on," I'm still getting skipping.  My network is AT&T, and I'm using
an iPhone 5 running iOS 8.3.  A good example of this is the "report
spam" button in the Gmail app.  The only way to find this item is by a
careful review of the screen.  I realize this is not a native app,but
I'm wondering if some buttons and functions are programmed differently
and are hence not showing up via VoiceOver.  Unfortunately, I can't
verify the presence of the visual display cursor Mark noted.

Craig

On 7/3/15, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> Hello Molly,
>
> Thank you so much for this feedback.
>
> You know, there is a visually displayed VoiceOver cursor that surrounds
> anything upon which VoiceOver is currently focused.
>
> If you have enough vision or have a sighted person available, can you let us
> know if the VoiceOver visual cursor is also skipping various elements as
> well?
>
> This is to say, is the VoiceOver visual cursor accurately following the
> speech output?
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Molly O'Sullivan
> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 6:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Follow-up about serious VoiceOver bug in iOS 8.4
>
> I am experiencing this problem on my ipone 6 on AT&T, running IOS 8.4, font
> normal, no zoom, motion reduced. In the Twitter app it will sometimes skip a
> message or two, and sometimes large chhunks of messages, it's hard to tell
> how many exactly. It's also doing this in the Facebook app, and in Mail, so
> it doesn't seem a particular app problem.
> Molly
>
> On 7/3/15, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> Hello Craig and All,
>>
>> I have been following this thread and can confidently say that I am
>> not experiencing this particular VoiceOver issue.
>>
>> I have attempted to recreate this problem on two 6 Plus phones running
>> iOS 8.4, to no avail.
>>
>> I would ask all of you experiencing this issue to confirm that you
>> have your display font size set to normal and to turn off zoom mode,
>> if, in fact, you have it turned on.
>>
>> Also, please enable the Reduce Motion feature.
>>
>> Finally, restart the phone, after having cleared/closed all open apps.
>>
>> See if this makes a difference.
>>
>> If you continue to experience this issue after having made the
>> adjustments, described above, I would be interested in learning which
>> wireless provider you use.
>>
>> The two carriers on which I tested this issue are A T & T Wireless and
>> Sprint.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Craig Werner
>> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 12:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Follow-up about serious VoiceOver bug in iOS 8.4
>>
>> I have noticed this behavior as well. As an example, if I am in the
>> index of messages using the native Mail app, and if the first in the
>> list has already been read, a right flick may bring me to the second
>> message in the list as if the first were not there. The solution, as
>> others have recommended, is to touch the screen rather than swipe or
>> flick.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On Thursday, July 2, 2015, Grant <grant.li...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> Thank you for this confirmation. September would be a rather long ETA
>> for resolution, so I'll have to think more about my options. Now that
>> I'm aware it's happening, I'm trying to work around it as best as
>> possible but it has caused a lot of confusion. What do others think;
>> can you also confirm this bug?
>>
>> Grant
>>
>>> On Jul 2, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Shaf <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's a bug - I can confirm.
>>> However there's no use reporting it to Apple as it may be fixed in
>>> the final version of iOS 9.
>>> If you can, downgrade if it's too much of an issue and if Apple still
>>> allows for it.
>>>
>>>> On 7/2/2015 10:32 PM, Grant wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I sent an Email to the list a couple days ago about a bug I've
>>>> encountered in iOS 8.4 on an iPhone 5S, where when swiping through
>>>> elements in a list, some items are missed by VoiceOver. It turns out
>>>> that this problem is appearing in many more places, including Email
>>>> messages.
>>>> I've discovered that often, when using a swipe right or swipe left
>>>> to move through a message in Mail, or even when doing a two-finger
>>>> swipe up to read the entire message, some entire paragraphs can be
>>>> skipped. The only way to tell that this is happening is by reviewing
>>>> the message multiple times to look for missed text.
>>>>
>>>> I've never seen anything quite like this, and I'm wondering if
>>>> others are finding this as serious as I am. I'm wondering whether to
>>>> try to erase my device and start from scratch, which I'd just as
>>>> soon avoid, or whether this is simply a VO bug in iOS 8.4 that has to be
>>>> worked around.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all.
>>>>
>>>> Grant
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