Hi Alex,
I mean that, when I move my finger across the mic, I can hear it. I also
can't restart my book. Also VO doesn't work. That is a problem.
Thanks,
Lois
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From: Alex Stone
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 5:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My top iOS 9 Bugs
Sorry, but what do you mean by "the microphone remains open", surely if the
call has ended this wouldn't make any difference.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: 17 September 2015 09:53
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My top iOS 9 Bugs
What happens with my iPhone 6 is, when I get a call while earphones are
plugged in, which is most of the time, everything is fine until I hang up
the call. That is when something funny happens. The microphone remains
open, and VO is dead. I have to unplug and plug back in to resolve the
issue. Since it doesn’t effect the actual calls, I can live with it.
Once, I dropped the phone while plugged in, and I had sound both through the
headphones and the speaker. That went on until I closed phone in the app
switcher. That also had to do with a call ringing while listening to a
book. Crazy stuff, but I still like the update.
Lois
From: christopher hallsworth <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:30 AM
To: Viphone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: My top iOS 9 Bugs
It cannot be duplicated since it is not device specific nor is it situation
specific.
On 17 Sep 2015, at 09:28, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com
<mailto:claudas...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Has anyone been able to duplicate point 1? That's my whole hesitation of
updating because I constantly use earbuds.
Thanks.
Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 16, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org
<mailto:jmo...@mosen.org> > wrote:
Hi everyone, now that the NDA is lifted, here are some things I think you
might like to be aware of in iOS 9.
I am enthusiastic about iOS 9. It is significantly more responsive than its
predecessor, and there are many new features that I'm sure you'll enjoy.
Unfortunately, there are also some VoiceOver bugs in iOS 9 that range from
minor annoyances to potentially critical, depending on how you use your
device and whether you find yourself affected. Here are just a few that you
might like to take into consideration before deciding whether to wait for a
bug fix release before installing iOS 9. Remember that a few days following
iOS 9's release, it will not be possible to downgrade again, so you should
consider the upgrade to iOS 9 a one-way trip, and proceed with caution if
anything below concerns you.
1. Audio routing bug. This is potentially the most significant accessibility
bug I can recall ever to slip through an iOS release, due to the number of
people who may be affected. Not everyone will be, and at present, even after
extensive testing with a range of people owning different devices, I have no
information about why it affects some users, but not others. It is not
device specific, for example it is happening to me on my iPhone 6 Plus, but
I know iPhone 6 Plus users where the problem isn't so severe. Nor does it
seem to be affected by any setting. If you're lucky, it won't happen to you,
but the only way I am aware of to determine this is to upgrade.
This bug may affect you when you have earbuds or headphones connected to the
headphone socket of your iPhone. The primary way the audio routing bug
manifests itself is when you receive an incoming phone or FaceTime call. You
can usually hear if you're going to be affected by the bug because your
ring-tone will fade in and out, rather like the way VOiceOver causes system
audio to fade in and out when audio ducking is enabled. At this point, if
you press the power button to silence the ringer and then flick through the
screen, you will find that not only has VOiceOver become unresponsive, but
the entire phone has as well.
If you don't press the power button while the phone is ringing, but instead
opt to flick through the iPHone's screen to locate the Answer button or
review caller ID information, VoiceOver may not speak at all.
Finally, if you attempt to answer the incoming call with a two-finger
double-tap, you may not be able to, since VoiceOver has effectively locked
up.
The bottom line is that if you have earbuds connected, you may not be able
to answer a call.
Some people have also reported similar problems answering calls when their
phone is set to silent.
If you rely on your phone for business or safety, this could be a deal
breaker in terms of upgrading at this point.
What makes this bug so fascinating is that not only is it completely absent
for some people, but of those who experience it, not all symptoms are
present for all users. For example, some people experience the issues I have
described when they press the power button to mute the ringer, but not when
the phone is ringing. Others can answer a call by pressing the button on
their EarPods, while others cannot.
If you upgrade and are affected by this, here are a few things to try.
(A) If you have the more moderate version of this bug, avoid pressing the
power button when you receive an incoming call.
(B) Turning off audio ducking seems to help a little for some users.
(C) If you can't answer a call with a two-finger double-tap, try pressing
the button on your EarPods or similar device if you have such a device
connected.
(D) If all else fails, you can disconnect any device from the headphone
jack, answer the call with a two-finger double-tap, then reconnect the
device to the headphone jack.
(E) Given the critical nature of this bug, if you've upgraded and now find
yourself afflicted by it, enrol in the iOS beta program so you can receive
early copies of any fixes Apple is working on. But keep in mind that since
you will be running beta software, you may well be swapping one set of bugs
for another.
2. Bluetooth keyboard support unreliable. Sometimes, users may input double
letters when typing. This is a bug that was introduced in the iOS 8 cycle,
and can easily be worked around by toggling VoiceOver off and on.
However, a new bug now exists where at times, no text is entered into a
field at all when VO is active. Toggling VO doesn't help, nor does switching
the keyboard off and on. The only immediate remedy is to turn Vo off, and
keep typing without it. If you turn VO back on again, the arrow keys don't
work when you're trying to navigate your text, and you can't edit it.
3. In the Today view of Notification Center, VO frequently restarts itself
when flicking through your widgets, and sometimes the phone locks up
entirely.
4. It's much less likely you can return to your previous position on screen
after taking an action. For example, flick through the list of podcasts in
Downcast. Find a podcast you wish to download. Double-tap, and a shortcut
menu appears. Choose Download. You should then be able to tap on the screen
and return to the list where you left off. This worked in previous iOS
versions, but it doesn't work now, you're returned to near the top of the
list. If you're in a large news-related podcast where there are dozens of
episodes, it takes a lot of effort to get back to your place. This also
impacts a number of other apps including some Twitter clients.
5. Less reliable audio ducking. You may find that if you use VoiceOver while
listening to audio from another app, audio ducking does not work as well as
it used to. Some times, it works perfectly, while at others, VoiceOver ducks
the audio but does not restore the app to its normal level when VO has
finished speaking. On other occasions, VoiceOver won't duck the audio at
all, as if audio ducking had been disabled. If VoiceOver has not restored
system audio to its usual level, sometimes toggling speech off and on again
with a three-finger double-tap will help. At other times, you may need to
toggle VoiceOver completely off and on again.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
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