That bluetooth keyboard problem stems back into IOS8. It drove me mad till I
discovered you could reload Voice-Over. Now it's even worse, by sounds of
things. ...
Yes, everyone, tell Apple this isn't good enough for those of us not good at
typing on the phone!
I will do likewise as soon as I experience the problem once I've downloaded.
Carol P
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From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: My top iOS 9 Bugs
Hi
Please can folk make sure they report these bugs to Apple, especially the
bluetooth keyboard one! Whilst I do occasionally use the touch screen, 99.9% of
the time I use my bluetooth keyboard for everything. I've reported it to Apple
accessibility, but would strongly encourage everyone else to do the same,
otherwise it'll never get fixed.
Eleanor
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On 17 Sep 2015, at 12:10, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote:
My biggest bug is the bluetooth keyboard problem. I know, I have, and love,
my Varioultra, but I have a friend that exclusively uses a keyboard, and it hit
her hard.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 16, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
Hi Neal. My understanding is that if you are affected, it will also
happen if you have your phone on silent. If you just have your phone unmuted
and on speaker, it appears to be OK as far as I know.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
On 17/09/2015, at 9:38 AM, Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> wrote:
Jonathan. Is this phone problem a problem only when using something
connected to the phone such as ear buds or a bluetooth device? Or, does it also
effect phone calls if you are using none of these devices and only using the
microphone and speaker in the phone?
Thanks.
Neal
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My top iOS 9 Bugs
Hi everyone, now that the NDA is lifted, here are some things I think
you might like to be aware of in iOS 9.
I am enthusiastic about iOS 9. It is significantly more responsive than
its predecessor, and there are many new features that I'm sure you'll enjoy.
Unfortunately, there are also some VoiceOver bugs in iOS 9 that range from
minor annoyances to potentially critical, depending on how you use your device
and whether you find yourself affected. Here are just a few that you might like
to take into consideration before deciding whether to wait for a bug fix
release before installing iOS 9. Remember that a few days following iOS 9's
release, it will not be possible to downgrade again, so you should consider the
upgrade to iOS 9 a one-way trip, and proceed with caution if anything below
concerns you.
1. Audio routing bug. This is potentially the most significant
accessibility bug I can recall ever to slip through an iOS release, due to the
number of people who may be affected. Not everyone will be, and at present,
even after extensive testing with a range of people owning different devices, I
have no information about why it affects some users, but not others. It is not
device specific, for example it is happening to me on my iPhone 6 Plus, but I
know iPhone 6 Plus users where the problem isn't so severe. Nor does it seem to
be affected by any setting. If you're lucky, it won't happen to you, but the
only way I am aware of to determine this is to upgrade.
This bug may affect you when you have earbuds or headphones connected
to the headphone socket of your iPhone. The primary way the audio routing bug
manifests itself is when you receive an incoming phone or FaceTime call. You
can usually hear if you're going to be affected by the bug because your
ring-tone will fade in and out, rather like the way VOiceOver causes system
audio to fade in and out when audio ducking is enabled. At this point, if you
press the power button to silence the ringer and then flick through the screen,
you will find that not only has VOiceOver become unresponsive, but the entire
phone has as well.
If you don't press the power button while the phone is ringing, but
instead opt to flick through the iPHone's screen to locate the Answer button or
review caller ID information, VoiceOver may not speak at all.
Finally, if you attempt to answer the incoming call with a two-finger
double-tap, you may not be able to, since VoiceOver has effectively locked up.
The bottom line is that if you have earbuds connected, you may not be
able to answer a call.
Some people have also reported similar problems answering calls when
their phone is set to silent.
If you rely on your phone for business or safety, this could be a deal
breaker in terms of upgrading at this point.
What makes this bug so fascinating is that not only is it completely
absent for some people, but of those who experience it, not all symptoms are
present for all users. For example, some people experience the issues I have
described when they press the power button to mute the ringer, but not when the
phone is ringing. Others can answer a call by pressing the button on their
EarPods, while others cannot.
If you upgrade and are affected by this, here are a few things to try.
(A) If you have the more moderate version of this bug, avoid pressing
the power button when you receive an incoming call.
(B) Turning off audio ducking seems to help a little for some users.
(C) If you can't answer a call with a two-finger double-tap, try
pressing the button on your EarPods or similar device if you have such a device
connected.
(D) If all else fails, you can disconnect any device from the headphone
jack, answer the call with a two-finger double-tap, then reconnect the device
to the headphone jack.
(E) Given the critical nature of this bug, if you've upgraded and now
find yourself afflicted by it, enrol in the iOS beta program so you can receive
early copies of any fixes Apple is working on. But keep in mind that since you
will be running beta software, you may well be swapping one set of bugs for
another.
2. Bluetooth keyboard support unreliable. Sometimes, users may input
double letters when typing. This is a bug that was introduced in the iOS 8
cycle, and can easily be worked around by toggling VoiceOver off and on.
However, a new bug now exists where at times, no text is entered into a
field at all when VO is active. Toggling VO doesn't help, nor does switching
the keyboard off and on. The only immediate remedy is to turn Vo off, and keep
typing without it. If you turn VO back on again, the arrow keys don't work when
you're trying to navigate your text, and you can't edit it.
3. In the Today view of Notification Center, VO frequently restarts
itself when flicking through your widgets, and sometimes the phone locks up
entirely.
4. It's much less likely you can return to your previous position on
screen after taking an action. For example, flick through the list of podcasts
in Downcast. Find a podcast you wish to download. Double-tap, and a shortcut
menu appears. Choose Download. You should then be able to tap on the screen and
return to the list where you left off. This worked in previous iOS versions,
but it doesn't work now, you're returned to near the top of the list. If you're
in a large news-related podcast where there are dozens of episodes, it takes a
lot of effort to get back to your place. This also impacts a number of other
apps including some Twitter clients.
5. Less reliable audio ducking. You may find that if you use VoiceOver
while listening to audio from another app, audio ducking does not work as well
as it used to. Some times, it works perfectly, while at others, VoiceOver ducks
the audio but does not restore the app to its normal level when VO has finished
speaking. On other occasions, VoiceOver won't duck the audio at all, as if
audio ducking had been disabled. If VoiceOver has not restored system audio to
its usual level, sometimes toggling speech off and on again with a three-finger
double-tap will help. At other times, you may need to toggle VoiceOver
completely off and on again.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
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