Hi Chris,

Don't take this the wrong way, but given the recent serious of strange bugs 
which seem to effect some more than others and some almost not at all saying it 
works good is not necessarily an informative statement. That is like saying iOS 
9.0.2 is absolutely awesome and I have no issues because maybe I happen not to 
have that issue with phone calls when using a headset or maybe I never use a 
headset hence it works great for me. Also I may never use a Bluetooth keyboard 
therefore Bluetooth keyboard issues don't concern me and since I am not a 
braille user those are also irrelevant for me, but they may be a dealbreaker 
for others. You can of course post what you like, I am simply making the point 
that posting "it works great for me" in response to somebody asking if specific 
bugs are fixed is not a relevant reply and since you aren't supposed to 
disclose specifically that the focus issue or the phone call issue have been 
resolved, then maybe it's better not to post especially since you probably know 
somebody will ask specifics. I also think you stated you are using the beta on 
an iPad which means the phone call issue is something you can't test for. 

Take care,
Sieghard

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chris
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Upgrading to IOS 9?

And I am pretty clear as well because I am a member. I can say things without 
being specific, like how good it's working for me. But I can't say if any bugs 
will be fixed until it is released to the general public and is therefore 
excempt from NDA.

On 12/10/2015 21:03, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Cara is pretty clear about not disclosing beta information to the list and of 
> course teasers like the message from Chris that 9.1 Beta is working pretty 
> good will prompt people to ask.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mário Navarro
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Upgrading to IOS 9?
>
>
>
> hi.
>
> but you can give us certainty that some bugs have been fixed?
> thanks.
> cheers.
>
> Às 20:00 de 12/10/2015, chris escreveu:
>> Hi
>>
>> I am one of the beta testers of 9.1. All I can say at this point is 
>> it's working pretty good on my iPad Mini 2. I can't say what's been 
>> fixed or not, neither can I say what's new if anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/10/2015 11:23, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>> I'm not on the beta myself, but I've heard the contrary, namely that 
>>> there are some fixes to some of the issues reported, so I'll either 
>>> give the beta a try myself or wait and see for myself when it comes out.
>>>
>>> On 10/12/2015 03:06 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
>>>> And in Ios 9.1 which will come up soon, there are no voiceover 
>>>> related solutions built-in for any reported bugs.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Davy
>>>>
>>>> 2015-10-12 7:32 GMT+02:00, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I also have the email bug. If you have VO on the triple click of 
>>>>> the home button, turn VO off, then back on.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Date: Monday, October 12, 2015 2:10 am
>>>>> Subject: Re: Upgrading to IOS 9?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IOS 9 has been my worst experience with any version of IOS. I've 
>>>>>> been using IOS since IOS 5 on my iPhone 4S. IOS 8 was 
>>>>>> problematic, but I considered it's bugs to be mostly 
>>>>>> inconveniences. With IOS 9, VoiceOver hangs if I answer a call 
>>>>>> while using my ear buds. I have to do a hard reset of my iPhone 
>>>>>> to recover. The only work around I have so far is to unplug my 
>>>>>> ear buds before answering a call. For the first time ever, I've 
>>>>>> had to give my wife two other numbers where she can reach me in 
>>>>>> case I'm having trouble with my iPhone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also have the problem where VoiceOver will hang for close to a 
>>>>>> minute every time I reply to an email message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know not everyone is seeing these bugs, but sending email from 
>>>>>> my iPhone and being able to receive calls are two things I expect 
>>>>>> from my smart phone, so these two bugs are particularly 
>>>>>> frustrating for me. In hind sight, this is one upgrade I wish I'd 
>>>>>> waited on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/11/2015 03:12 PM, Kim Samco wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I took to heart the warning about waiting to upgrade until some 
>>>>>>> of the bugs are worked out.  Is it "safe" to upgrade now or is 
>>>>>>> it still at the point of frustration?  Do we know when IOS 9.1 
>>>>>>> will be out?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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