Duh. I guess I got confused and didn't focus on the OSX thing; I was thinking about Richard's trying NVDA and WindowEyes and didn't make the brain switch to use of the pgm/app with the Mac.
Thanks, Dani, who'll go get some coffee to open up the pathways to the brain On 10/16/15, chris <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote: > Well if they are using OS X then they will be using VoiceOver right? > Just going by the message one below this one. > > On 17/10/2015 01:57, Dani Pagador wrote: >> Yes, but what are you using to access it? A little more info, please??? >> >> Thanks, >> Dani >> >> On 10/16/15, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> iMazing for OS X is amazingly accessible, no pun intended. >>> >>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner >>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I tried the trial version of iMazing with both Window-Eyes and NVDA and >>>> find it mostly useless. >>>> I tried to submit a ticket request through their web site and that was >>>> also not very accessible. >>>> So, have any Windows users using a screen reader found a way to use >>>> this >>>> app? >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:12 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility >>>> Technical Support Representative >>>> >>>> I would be interested to know if anyone has used the Win version to >>>> comment how accessible it is, please. >>>> >>>> BobH. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu> >>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 4:29 AM >>>> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility >>>> Technical Support Representative >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello Richard, the third-party app he recommended was iMazing. He said >>>> that there is both a Mac and a Windows version. >>>> >>>> A sighted friend of mine uses iMazing on the Mac and swears by it. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Richard Turner >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility >>>> Technical Support Representative >>>> >>>> Which third party app did they recommend, or were they not quite that >>>> helpful. >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of M. Taylor >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:29 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: A Very Surprising Suggestion by an Apple Accessibility >>>> Technical >>>> Support Representative >>>> >>>> Hello Everyone, >>>> >>>> As I have posted, on-list, since updating to iOS 9.0.2, I have not been >>>> able to either add or remove any media from my iPhone 5 S, >>>> be it audio books, ring tones, music, etc. >>>> >>>> After extensive research, I discovered that many of those using iTunes >>>> for >>>> Windows and even some using OS X, were experiencing the >>>> same problem. As would be expected, there were suggestions as to how >>>> to >>>> resolve this problem. >>>> I tried all of them and none worked, for me. >>>> >>>> Finally, yesterday, I decided to call the Apple accessibility support >>>> number. >>>> >>>> As it is not my intention to write a novel here, I will just provide >>>> the >>>> sum and substance of my call. By the way, I want you to >>>> know that the tech was very gracious and professional. As I had >>>> dedicated >>>> an entire afternoon to resolving this problem, I, too, >>>> was very patient and polite. >>>> >>>> 1. >>>> I asked the rep if he was familiar or had any recent experience using >>>> iTunes for Windows. He said yes. >>>> >>>> 2. >>>> He told me that he had heard of no problems with syncing between the 5 >>>> S >>>> running 9.0.2 and that he was personally using Windows with >>>> a 5 S with no >>>> problem during our call. >>>> >>>> 3. >>>> Because I have yet to hear an Apple support specialist admit that there >>>> may be a bug in anything, (just my experience, mind you), I >>>> had prepared a URL to give to the tech to prove that this problem has >>>> been >>>> reported to Apple since as early as the first release of >>>> iOS 9.0. I will admit that it gave me a lot of satisfaction when he >>>> returned to the line, after visiting the site containing the >>>> reports, minus his, if not arrogance, then his conviction that mine was >>>> an >>>> isolated issue. >>>> >>>> 4. >>>> After spending a lot of time on the phone with no success, he >>>> inadvertently admitted that he was using a Mac to help me >>>> troubleshoot. This came up because we were searching for some system >>>> files that clearly do not exist on a Windows PC. When I >>>> called him out on this, he admitted that he was not using a Windows PC >>>> during our call. >>>> >>>> The Surprise: >>>> 5. >>>> He suggested that I use a third-party application, instead of iTunes, >>>> to >>>> sync my iOS devices. >>>> >>>> I was really stunned at his suggestion, to say the least. >>>> >>>> He was unable to resolve my problem. >>>> >>>> However, I am delighted to report that, after doing some thinking on >>>> the >>>> matter, I decided to attempt a different approach and, >>>> thankfully, it was successful. The following are the steps I took in >>>> order to resolve the >>>> problem: >>>> >>>> 1. >>>> Before launching iTunes for Windows and attaching my 5 S, after >>>> unhiding >>>> the system files, I deleted the .iPSW file that was >>>> initially downloaded in iTunes. Doing this forced iTunes to download a >>>> fresh copy of iOS 9.0.2 to my PC. >>>> >>>> 2. >>>> I restored my 5 S and set it up as a new phone. >>>> >>>> 3. >>>> I then restored a previously saved backup of my 5 S. >>>> >>>> Now, all is working as it should and I am experiencing absolutely no >>>> synchronization problems. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>> or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the >>>> list >>>> itself. >>>> >>>> Your VIPhone list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an >>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>> or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the >>>> list >>>> itself. >>>> >>>> Your VIPhone list owner is Cara Quinn - 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