Hi Patti,
You can sign up a special training at your local Apple store for one one
time a month for the full one year. Apple is happy to help with you.
Good luck.
Scott Dollar
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From: Patti Johnson
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: having trouble finding translation
Yes it makes sense, and I am thrilled to report that I got accomplished
what I have been trying to do since I bought my ipad.
I can't believe I was just not getting this. I guess it takes a hammer
to my head sometimes to get through to me! Thanks for all your patience
and putting up with me.
Patti
On 11/13/2015 1:32 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
HI Patti,
How you have output set depends on what you want to see on your braille
display. It has no effect on what you type or how what you type is
translated. And whether auto-translation is on or not is irrelevant if
you're using uncontracted 8-dot braille because there is no translation
when you use that setting. The only thing auto-translation does is, if you
type some text and haven't pressed Space or Enter, if it's on, the text
will be translated after a couple of seconds. If it's off, the text will
only be translated if you press Space, Enter, or Space with dots 4-5. I
hope that makes sense.
Best,
Anna
On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Patti Johnson <pattigj1...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Anna. I swear on my life, it is the first time I saw those words auto
translation, just now.
I promise I'm not making that up. I turned it on and chose 8 dot for my
display output. Should I have screen input the same?
I am so sorry to be such a stupe.
Patti
On 11/13/2015 12:49 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
Hi Patti,
Go to Settings/General/VoiceOver/Braille.
Choose Braille Display Input.
Your choices should be Uncontracted 6-dot braille (which is Grade 1
braille), uncontracted 8-dot brialle (which is computer braille, with no
translation), and Contracted Braille (which is translated braille, using
UEB or English Grade 2 or whichever code you've chosen). The final
choice on this screen is Automatic Braille Translation. It is dimmed if
you've chosen uncontracted 8-dot braille.
For typing in a login, you're probably best off if you choose
uncontracted 8-dot braille and type the login using computer braille.
That way, there's no translation involved. Once you have a feel for how
translation works, you can use it and contracted braille in any edit
field.
I hope that's of some help.
Best,
Anna
On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Patti Johnson <pattigj1...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks, Anna, but again, I don't see where it gives you the option to
turn it off or on, I don't see the words auto translation.
I am looking at Braille input. Under translation it just give me
english ueb and united kingom. Should I be looking somewhere else,
should I do something first to see where it says something about Auto
translation? I am sorry to appear so dense, but I have had nothing but
trouble since the updates, getting input to work on My Focus, no matter
which input I use.
I wonder if it's the display itself, but it worked before. I even put
my typing keyboard on "nothing". I am still not getting anywhere,
especiall using my Ipad. What I want to do is enter my creditentials
for xm and I could do it on the phone, but not on the ipad, and both
have the most recent updates.
Could it be that app doesn't work on the ipad any more?
I'm jsut frustrated, I'm sorry.
Patti
On 11/13/2015 12:24 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
Hi Patti,
The auto-translation setting is in the Braille Display Input section
of Braille settings. If you turn it on, it works anytime you are using
a braille input mode that involves translation, i.e., contracted and
six-dot.
Best,
Anna
On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Patti Johnson <pattigj1...@gmail.com>
wrote:
But I'm not seeing any setting for auto translation, all I see is
english, united kingdom english and ueb.
I don't see anywhere it says auto translation.
If I have it set to English, would the at and period symbols be dot 4
and 46 respectively?
so do I hit the space bar or space bar dots 4 5, because I can't
figure out if its set to auto.
I am sorry to be so dense but I swear I don't see that anywhere.
Patti
or On 11/13/2015 12:05 PM, Scott Davert wrote:
Hi Patty.
If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text
before
hitting the space bar, press space with dots 4-5. How to enter the @
symbol depends on which table you are using for braille translation.
with UEB, it's dot 4 and then dot 1.
Scott
On 11/13/15, Patti Johnson <pattigj1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or
whatever it says. But I guess it works. The other problem I am
having
is when I put in my password and then hit space, it gives it an
extra
character. and no matter which output I use, when i try to put in
the
at sign and period on my email address it gives it different
symbols,
and extra letters. I f eel so stupid, why can't I do this right?
Patti
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