Still have to use third party screen reading solution

Talk to me whem there is built in

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On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> True and understood. I'm not saying that iPhone accessibility isn't superior 
> to Android's. I think it is, and that's why I'm an iPhone user and not an 
> Android user. However, people have just been saying incorrect things about 
> the Android phone and making generalizations without any facts to back their 
> statements up. There's plenty of totally valid and factual reasons why an 
> iPhone is the right choice for many people. there's no reason to spread dated 
> and incorrect information about any other product.
> 
> My reference to significant improvements had to do with the changes from 
> Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich to Jellybean, since many of the statements 
> on the list had to do with the state of Talk Back in Gingerbread. I'm just 
> saying that that information is dated and the improvements since then have 
> been significant. I don't think accessibility in Gingerbread was almost 
> non-existent, but that's a judgement call.
> 
> I hear what you're saying about the set up process for a blind user on the 
> Samsung Galaxy S3, but the day I brought my iPhone home, I spent 4 hours 
> trying to get my Apple ID in the App Store. I eventually just gave up and 
> tried again the next day. I know you said the podcast author was familiar 
> with the iPhone, but picking up a new touch screen device is going to take 
> some time to get used to. I'll also point out that the Samsung Galaxy S3 
> shipped with Ice Cream Sandwich and I know there were improvements in 
> Jellybean in the area of typing.
> 
> On 08/22/2012 11:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Christopher,
>> 
>> It's not all that hard to improve something significantly which was almost
>> non-existent before. I am interested in technology of any kind and recently
>> listened to a very detailed 2-part german Podcast by somebody who is a very
>> experienced tech user about Talkback on a I think Samsung Galaxy S3
>> top-of-line phone. This person also has an iPhone and he actually had to
>> stop the Podcast and restart it because the gesture which was supposed to
>> activate Talkback during setup did not work. He finally did get it going and
>> then continued to setup the phone and boy was it painful to listen to his
>> attempts to do the simplest things. At one point he had to enter his name on
>> a virtual keyboard and it literally took him 5 or 6 minutes in the Podcast
>> before he managed to enter his first and last name, as I said, it was simply
>> painful and I was sitting there thinking why somebody would put him or
>> herself through such frustration if you can get an iPhone, you triple click
>> the home key and that's it. When I got my iPhone 4S I set it up myself in
>> the store with Voiceover and the entire process took me about as long as
>> what it took him to enter his name. I am not exaggerating, but the entire
>> first part of the Podcast which was over an hour was about him getting past
>> the few start screens and that is not counting the time where he paused the
>> Podcast to even get Talkback to initialize. They may have come a ways, but
>> they have a very very long road ahead before they get even close to the
>> iPhone's accessibility and ease of use and as I said in my earlier message,
>> I don't think they will ever get there.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
> 
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