I second that. :) Maybe if more of us blind people are using Fleksy we might be able to contribute more helpful tips, suggestions, and requests that the Fleksy team might find useful to help make the app even better in the future.
Christina > On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:30 AM, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Wow, Alan! Thanks for all the time and detail you are putting in to helping > the community get to use the Fleksy keyboard! Much appreciated! Harry > >> On 20 Jan 2016, at 22:27, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Christina, >> >> Unfortunately, those of us who learned the original Fleksy app later renamed >> Fleksy VO have to adjust our thinking somewhat to get comfortable with the >> Fleksy Keyboard. I think you should keep trying because I'm becoming more >> convinced that we can be productive with this keyboard. >> >> I'll address each of your issues in a numbered list. >> >> 1. If you're typing with the Fleksy spacebar keyboard, the button at the >> bottom leftmost position is the numbers button labeled with a 123 and >> touching it once will switch the keyboard from letters to numbers and back >> again. When numbers are displayed, this key becomes a letters keyboard key >> labeled ABC. While numbers are still displayed, pressing the shift key which >> is immediately above the numbers/letters button will open the symbols >> keyboard. I think this behavior is the same as with the iOS standard >> keyboard. >> >> 2. The minimal Fleksy keyboard has a shift button at the bottom leftmost >> position and a backspace button at the bottom rightmost position and these >> keys were not present in the original Fleksy app. Note that Fleksy/VO >> sometimes doesn't announce the backspace key as you move slowly around the >> keyboard doing manual input but will simply state the key erased when the >> backspace is executed. I also inadvertently hit both the shift and backspace >> keys when typing with the minimal Fleksy keyboard and think it's just going >> to take additional practice to unlearn how we typed with the original Fleksy >> in order to get good with this new one. >> >> 3. When using the minimal keyboard, a quick single finger swipe right on the >> shift key in the bottom leftmost position should switch between the letters >> and numbers keyboards. When in the numbers keyboard, a quick single finger >> swipe down should switch between the numbers and symbols keyboards. >> Sometimes the keyboard loaded is inconsistent so you might have to keep >> swiping right until you get to the one you want. Fleksy/VO has been >> consistently identifying the loaded keyboard for me although sometimes it >> doesn't immediately switch back to letters from numbers. Another point is if >> you do a quick single finger swipe left on the backspace key located at the >> bottom rightmost position of the minimal keyboard, your Emoji keyboard >> should open. If it does, the bottom leftmost key on it should return you to >> the letters keyboard when you double tap it. Also note that the input of >> emoji symbols works a bit differently with the Fleksy keyboard than with the >> standard iOS keyboard using touch typing. With Fleksy, you can swipe around >> on the various emoji keys and lift to hear them announced without their >> actually being entered. It takes a single finger double tap to record the >> emoji which has focus or a split tap to do so. I actually like this behavior >> better than how the iOS keyboard does it. >> >> 4. You've identified another one of the Fleksy keyboard bugs or VoiceOver >> inconsistencies as I call them. When doing manual input slowly one letter at >> a time as we often do with a new word or a proper name, the Fleksy keyboard >> more times than not will announce it as a capital letter regardless if you >> have your settings to identify case correctly as it sounds like you do. The >> good news is that Fleksy is entering the correct case even if it is >> announcing it incorrectly and we're just going too have to get used to this >> anomaly. Fleksy also consistently capitalizes the first letter of a word in >> a new sentence provided this setting is turned on. >> >> 5. Fleksy should get better at guessing your words the more you use it and I >> also urge you to often add the words not identified correctly to your Fleksy >> dictionary via a single finger swipe up after input. The more complete your >> Fleksy dictionary, the better it will be at guessing the correct word. >> >> 6. If you've turned off the setting to show accented versions of all >> letters, this should help avoid that issue as you do manual input. >> Unfortunately, the letter e as well as a couple of others have accented >> versions which will pop up if you linger on these keys while doing manual >> input. All I can offer here is to develop a procedure to watch out for this >> and to use your single finger swipe left to delete an erroneous entry often. >> And this also happens to me quite often too. >> >> Try not to get discouraged but continue to practice with the Fleksy >> keyboard. Also, anyone running into problems should post them here so we can >> develop the documented methodology to make this keyboard work for us. >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Christina C. >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:15 PM >> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone >> Subject: Problems with Fleksy number/symbols layout >> >> Hi, >> >> I am having all kinds of problems with the Fleksy third party keyboard app. >> I really don't know why I am bothering. I guess it's because I loved loved >> loved the stand alone Fleksy keyboard and I so badly want to experience that >> same ease of typing. >> >> When I am trying to touch type in Fleksy, I keep engaging the numbers and >> symbols layout. This is highly frustrating because I keep doing it even in >> minimal mode layout and I don't even know how I am making it happen. Then I >> can't figure out how to get back to the letter layout. Also, voice Over >> announces each letter that I type as a capital letter no matter what. It's >> frustrating because I can't figure out if I accidentally hit the shift >> button or not. I keep having to check and see if shift is selected or not. I >> also made sure that in settings the keyboard will reflect uppercase and >> lowercase letters. Also, how do I avoid hitting the shift or delete key. The >> shift key was never a factor with the stand alone fleksy keyboard. I still >> cannot type one complete sentence in a reasonable amount of time. I am >> significantly slower on the Fleksy keyboard than on the native iOS keyboard. >> Fleksy rarely guesses my words correctly so I must be way way off. 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